Topic: I'm beginning to like Logan more and more (minor STX $)
MIB
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(QUOTE) "We are going to see some of the original series aliens that we haven't seen in a while. I can't go into detail, but I love the Andorians, too." (END QUOTE)
Please lord! Please tell me that some the original series aliens that are going to appear will be the Gorn and the Tholians!!!!!!
I doubt that ST-X will be the best Trek film yet. ST-IV was the best Trek film for TEN YEARS before it was finally booted off the #1 ranking by ST-VIII. ST-VIII, IMHO will be a though act to follow. (Although ST-IX, IMHO, came damn close to at least tieing ST-VIII as the #1 trek movie.)
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Insurrection came close to being as good as First Contact?
Are you sure you didn't wander into the wrong cinema and accidently say through The Sixth Sense instead?
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About the whole Annorax/Krenim thing: Logan's language is sufficiently vague that it could swing either way, i.e. we could either just get a villain who somewhat resembles Annorax, or we could get a direct Krenim reference. I'm betting on the former, but not ruling out the latter.
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Liam: "Insurrection came close to being as good as First Contact?" Well I thought so. But then again I must have stumbled into a different Cinema than the rest of you when I saw First Contact, 'cause I wasn't that impressed (though unlike Insurrection, it did have really good FX.
[This message has been edited by Obi Juan (edited April 23, 2001).]
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PLEASE NOOOOOOOO! The company that did the Insurrection effects should NOT be allowed to do the next movie. They sucked, and I have given examples around here in other threads but I'll just summarise by saying.
atmosphere matte drones/ships crapola.
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I think there's a lot of prejudice around. People hear the magical letters ILM and immediately they think the effects are great. They hear Eden/Santa Barbara,... and the reaction is "they're crap". Granted, ILM is great, but what's the problem with Insurrection? I've got it on DVD and I don't see any major problems with the effects, even under close and scrutinous examination. Yes, one or two scenes (in the briar patch) are not the best ones ever seen, but on the whole, the effects are quite good.
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The effects were good, yes, but they weren't the best.
The effects in space... well I didn't like how the Enterprise looked so fake... with the panelling not really looking real, just alternating squares of dark and light.
The way that the big E-E was turned into a 'Defiant'... skimming all around the place.
The new ships were, tacky and didn't look like what had 'come before' all new shapes of bussard collectors and wierd bright whites...
The atmospheric shots were the worst... it looked like they had just superimposed the drones/shuttlecraft/Son'a ships on the film. They payed no attention to any actual ambient light that might effect what sort of light and shadows might be cast on the ships...
that's a few.
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"The new ships were, tacky and didn't look like what had 'come before' all new shapes of bussard collectors and wierd bright whites..."
This has nothing to do with Eden. Maybe you should write a complaint letter to John Eaves.
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Dunno. For me, the "Insurrection" VFX was the best of the TNG-movie lot. The atmospheric scenes were a first for Trek movies (ST5 mercifully excluded), and I for one found them completely acceptable. The sight of the two small craft speeding towards sunset atop a layer of clouds was both aesthetically very pleasing and rather realistic-looking. And once the craft began their dogfighting and tumbling, there was little time to worry about things like lighting or shadows anyway.
"First Contact" had more of a "plasticky-modely" feel to the E-E, probably because of the coloring of the ship (it contrasted so strongly against the Borg and Phoenix dark hues that it couldn't *help* looking plasticky), but I didn't find that very objectionable, either. "Generations" of course had the cards stacked against it, because the E-D featured no external illumination and was thus doomed to look far less cool than the other movie ships.
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