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In "Infinate Regress", Seven identifies the Ferengi as Species 180. My question, how the hell can the Ferengi be so low?! MAYBE Species 5180...
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Well, considering the Borg must have encountered lots of and lots of species anyway (millions, assuming non-humanoid ones, non-sentient ones, etc.), the numbers must be based on a logarithm system or something.
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I've always assumed that the Borg only catagorize sentient species with a number, while nonsentients go under a different system, since there are so many of them.
But I rather like the logarithmic idea as well. After all, who says a hive mind would be as linear as we are?
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Well I rekon it is linear and I just put it down to being something cool to find out about - i.e. what really did happen, I mean maybe a ferengi bought passage to the delta quadrant a LONG time ago
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Perhaps a Borg cube came across a Ferengi ship a long time ago, assimilated it, but then never bothered to after the rest of the Ferengi.
The fact that the borg have only encountered or assimilated 8000+ species doesn't bother me. There may be a lot of life forms out there, but very few would be sentient, and even fewer would have a high enough technological level to interest the Borg. I haven't seen anything to suggest there are, say, more than 1000 sentient species in the Alpha quadrant (correct me if I'm wrong here), so if the Borg assimilated species over several quadrants over thousands of years, something just below 10,000 species sounds about right...
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Actually, the Borg are around 10,500 by now, I'd presume (having added Species 10,026 in "Dark Frontier").
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Maybe the number is based on how dangerous they are! Maybe it's the priority number for assimulation; why would they want Ferengi in the collective?
Think about it, the Ferengi pose no threat to the Borg. They have nothing the Borg would want to have either.
Another fact to support my first idea is species 8472. They are dangerous, they have a high number. I bet the human number was higher than 180 too, but lower than 8472. I can't remember it now though.
We know they want to assimulate humans, I bet they'd like to find a way to assimulate 8472 also.
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Up till now, everything said about the way Borg designate species is when the species were first encountered by the Borg. That is really all I know about their designation system. It doesn't really explain why a species closer to them has a higher # than humans or vulcans.
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The higher-the-number-higher-the-resistance/threat thing makes little sense. Arturis's people were Species 116. They were very powerful and resistant. And Species 10026 from "Dark Frontier" had 39 ships and 300,000 individuals. Hardly menacing.
I'd suggest going with the reverse, but the Ferengi wouldn't be very threatening either...
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Something here isn't quite making sense. Everything I've seen on Star Trek seems to point to species designation in the order that they are encountered. But if Terrans are species 5618, that would mean the Borg have doubled the number of species they've encountered in only about a decade (assuming the first time they encountered humans was when they first encountered the Enterprise). I suppose its possible that the Borg encountered very few species for a long time and then suddenly began assimilating everything in sight, but I thought the Borg collective was thousands of years old, and so it seems a little odd that their rate of assimilation should go up so much in such a short time.
I don't know what the explanation is, people can speculate all they like, I will simply invoke the golden rule of science fiction and suspend all disbelief.
Or I could invoke golden rule #2: blame the writers
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They first encountered humans twenty years prior to "Dark Frontier" and "The Raven", aboard (well, obviously!) the Raven; that gives them two decades to double the number of species encountered.
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