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David Templar
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Naw to all of that, it was probably the mysterious "subspace shockwave", which is generated by the unfortunate demise of warpcores and have a tendency to vary in strength depending on the plot.

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you cant blame troi for craching the saucer
it's not that easy to when you dont got the thrust to escape a planets gravity

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Aban Rune
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20 posts and already calling someone an idiot...sigh...
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quote:
The Enterprise does not use nuclear reactions to provide warp power.
Matter and Antimatter annihilating parallel into a dilithium crystal,
producing an energetic plasma. Nothing nuclear here, baby.

In point of fact, a matter/antimatter reaction is a nuclear reaction. It is the most efficient one possible, since it converts 100 percent of the available mass into energy. By comparison, the fusion reaction at the core of the sun releases less than one percent of the potential energy.

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Malnurtured Snay
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Well, Crusher seems to be quite set in the "idiot" category.

Albane, what, you haven't seen any of Omega's posts lately? He calls people idiots much faster ...

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Aban Rune
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No, I meant Mr. Crusher there only had 20 posts here at Flare. Not that there were 20 post in the thread.

Usually people wait until they've been around for awhile before becoming antagonistic. Usually.

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After watching Generations many times I don't see how Troi crashed the Enterprise-D. I agree the gravity and atmosphere had some effect on why the swan like vessel crashed. Another factor was Paramount trying to make money like in ST:III when the "real" first ship to bear the name was destroyed.

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I take back what I said about Woodside. I thought he meant nuclear reactions as in fission and fusion nuclear reactions, not other types of nuclear reactions. I have read in the January 2001 of Star Trek: The Magazine, that the fusion reactors that power the impulse engines use proton-antiproton fusion reactions for power, and in a diagram on page 44, there is an antimatter storage pod on the right side of the page. So, at least from technical drawings I've seen, when the warp core exploded, the antimatter tanks directly below it were vaporized, creating a more powerful explosion, and the the antimatter pods in the impulse engines in the battle hull were vaporized, adding to the explosion(s). And then, probably the stored photon torpedoes also exploded, since they too contain antimatter. So it is reasonable that the Enterprise's battle hull could have been completely destroyed by the core breach.

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Mikey T
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It does kinda make sense. The engineering hull had the 250 photon topredoes along with the antimater tanks. Not to mention all the conbustable liquids and vapours. That and the production crew wanted a corridor set that they can easily film in.

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Photon torpedoes aren't stored loaded.

What are we talking about, anyway?


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The Red Admiral
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I made an Mpeg of the Enterprise saucer crash for my site not that long ago, and while reviewing the footage again, and some of the other ensuing dialogue, it basically goes as follows:

Riker: "REPORT!"
Troi: "Helm systems are offline!"

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Data: "I have rerouted auxilary power to the lateral thrusters, attempting to level our descent."

That's pretty much all, with the exception of what others have already said. The other anomaly with the evacuation of the stardrive section is we see Crusher rushing everyone out of sickbay. To my knowledge sickbay was always in the Saucer section anyway.

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"Arsenal of Freedom."

Geordi seperates the saucer, and returns to Minos to rescue the Away Teams: Picard, Crusher, Riker, Data and Yar. After he and Worf destroy the probes, the Away Teams are beamed up and sickbay reports to the Battle Bridge that Dr. Crusher will make a full recovery.

The only suitable explanation -- and this is rather an easy one to make -- is that sickbay is in both the Battle and Saucer sections. Makes sense, doesn't it? You would want the most essential of facilities (you know, like the bridge) duplicated between both halves of a seperating starship.

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OnToMars
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So where's the saucer's main engineering?

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Presumably, that would be the impulse control room.
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Mikey T
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I doubt that there was a replica of sickbay on the battle section. In the semi-canon TNG Blueprints, there were copies of the bridge, ready room, and conference lounge. But that was all. I think there were rooms refered to as medical stations placed all over the ship from the saucer to the engineering hull.

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