The database is more complete than ever now with the Magazine revealing the obscure TMP aliens. The total number of potential members is now 107. I would appreciate any comments on the list. So if you have any questions, remarks, or simple want to rant about something, do so.
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Looks good, Harry. I like your categorization scheme. Also found a couple I need to add to my own list.
This brings up (again) the question of "what constitutes being a Federation member?" My own list is at 382 entries & will probably expand to 500 or 600--a vast increase over that annoying "150 members" line. Why so many? I'm including colonies (Mars, Luna, Titan, Ganymede, etc.) as well as possible protectorates. Also, since I run my universe 11-12 years ahead of "current" TNG/DS9/VGR times, I'm thinking that membership ballooned after the Dominion War.
Plus I also set up the list primarily as a civilian ship registration prefix list. Sure, they might have an NDT or a BDR number, but I think of the planets as also being like the individual state or provinces that assign their own numerical code with a 1-, 2-, or 3-letter "planet of registry" prefix.
Anyway..back on topic...how did you decide who to leave out & who to leave in? There are a couple that seem odd to me, like Risa. I don't think that's so much a member as much as a protectorate or "simple place."
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I assume Risa is a member mainly because the planet has indigenous people, and because so many Starfleet and Federation species and people are frequenting the place. More evidence comes from the New Essentialists who targeted Risa for their ideas on *Federation* ideals. Then there is the environmental system, which I think was mentioned to be from Federation origin.
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To ME, anyway, being a member implies an indiginous population and worldwide governmental system among other things. I didn't see any of that as being on Risa (& a few other places)...but that's me.
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My own wholly incomplete and likely inaccurate list contains planets, not species, and thus is directed towards somewhat different ends. I presume you're not interested in places like 'audet IX, which contained a Federation research station and thus was presumably a UFP world, but had no mention of any native population, or any life whatsoever.
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IIRC, according to publicity materials published by Gene Roddenberry's Lincoln Enterprises during the run of TAS, Edos was not supposed to be a UFP member, but rather in a loose alliance with the Federation.
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Shik: Well, there's some question whether Vanessa Williams was supposed to be a native Risan or not. And you just said you include colonies as members, but that members need to have an indigenous population. That's completely self-contradictory. By definition, a colony is non-indigenous.
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Why would there be any question if whether Vanessa Williams was a native Risian or not? She had the penny stuck to her forehead like everyone else identified as Risian, no?
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: ...you just said you include colonies as members, but that members need to have an indigenous population. That's completely self-contradictory. By definition, a colony is non-indigenous.
It's not a concrete rule, just an observation..but yeah, it does bring up (yet again) the question of "what is a colony?" Mars was declared effectively free in 2103; is it a standalone member or does it pool with Earth? What about Luna? They kind of have "indigenous populations" now, if defined loosely.
I've been trying for some time to come up with a worthwhile scheme, but the only thing I can come back to is that all the colonies & planets join as a star system with a "joint ambassadorial structure," but that doesn't work in multispecies systems like Rigel. Oh well.
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Free Mars!!!!!!
Oh wait...first we have to get there. Shit.
On to Mars!!!!!!!!!
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To make an annoying tangent: Why does the UK have multiple national football teams trying to qualify for the World Cup but only a single Olympic team and UN seat? Are there any other countries that do this? Should California have a separate soccer team? It might be something similar to Federation Membership and Council seats...somehow.
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. And I'm going to add Medusa, simply because the Magazine of October 2001 suggested it 
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