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The Prime Directive has nothing to do with limiting the Federation's use of technology. The Prime Directive limits the Federation's contact with less developed civilizations and prohibits interference in the natural flow of the development of said societies.
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I don't think the Prime Directive is stupid at all. I think that it is a very good rule. Unfortunately, in Star Trek, it almost always gets broken.
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i think Nevod is saying in his own special roundabout way that he disagrees with the Temporal Prime Directive, which would seem to apply to using all the super-future-junk that the old bitch brought back when she $
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brought Voyager home.
And it would seem stupid to your average Defint rawks kill all the cardeez trekkie, but it makes a lot of sense
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i think that a "hit janeway with biggest bomb possible as soon as she reappears somewhere" clause should have been introduced into the temporal prime directive in order to keep tim burton's filthy batman armor out of star trek. instead they made her a damn admiral (though could you imagine anyone listening to her advice, now that she is an admiral?
adm. jw: hello, picard, let me just say...
jean-luc picard: shut the fuck up, bitch! i don't need your help, muthafucka! you weren't even smart enough to consider trying for the bajoran wormhole to get home. even though the location of the wormhole and it's physical relationship to the alpha quadrant are in debate, that kind of consideration would have shown you to have at least the minimum intelligence required of an upright primate. hell, you didn't even know where the fuck you were. you assmonkies were in the beta quadrant and ya didn't even fucking know it. fuck YOU, biatch!!! computer, close channel.)
If we're talking about the Temporal Prime Directive, then he should say so.
Such a rule makes sense as it was initially conceived. I believe it's first appearance was with Capt. Braxton in "Future's End", Part 2. I think it was assumed that it was an extention of the PD that would make since for a timefaring society to adopt.
Soonthereafter, it became a "current" Starfleet rule as well as Janeway used the phrase all the time. This made less sense since her Starfleet didn't really have any temporal technology.
Having regulations for accidental involvement in past events (as was mentioned in "Trials and Tribbleations") makes sense. Having a whole Prime Directive for it does not for the Starfleet of Janeway's time.
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Voy plot is stupid at all: they could've just rig these tricobalts after some time, while Voy will ride that tetryon wave again.
I think that Temporal Directive is very good. If PR is one-sided, then it's just hipocrytical rule. Also, they could just give an offer: join us and we'll give you every tech. If it can't work, then why not just teach the people what for tech should be used(i.e. for exploration etc blah-blah).
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Maybeperhaps am we have own Barcalow in view? All your loony are belong to us? For great duh?
Or am I reading too much into this?
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OK. Noone knocked Voayger's plot. They were knocking Janeway's meddling.
You asked about the Prime Directive. People are trying to respond, but i still don't know whether you're talking about the Prime Directive or the Temporal Prime Directive.
Let's just define some terms...
Prime Directive: Limits the Federation (specifically Starfleet personnel) from influencing the development of sovereign or less developed societies by the introduction of technology, the introduction of information, or by influencing political workings (as was the issue with the Klingon Civil War). This policy is a good idea and we've seen how societies can be adversly effected by interference. Once a society has reached the technological level at which it can be considered for Federation membership, there are no longer any Prime Directive considerations.
Temporal Prime Directive: Prohibits Starfleet personnel from altering the timeline or distributing information about future events. As I've said, it makes very little sense to me that this policy would be considered a major directive in a Starfleet where time travel is almost always the result of some accident.
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i totally agree that the temporal prime directive is definitely out of place as a catch all law in the 24th century. the temporal prime directive sounds like something that only people with temporal technology would have (and as Aban Rune said, the starfleet of the 24th century doesn't have consistant temporal tech) when they are visiting a earlier time period. it would be in 24th century starfleets own best interest to use any tech they got from the future. afterall, as far as contemporary starfleet is concerned, there is no timeline to disrupt since they are living it. it would be up to future versions of starfleet and the temporal police to go back in time and take the future tech in order to preserve their timeline where (it can be assumed) the 24th century federation never got the future tech and then they could.....ugh, i'm getting dizzy. i hate temporal plots. can't we all just forget it happened? i hope that the writers of Nemesis forgot it happened.
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Well, Janeway did tell Starling that noone in her time would sacrifice the future for their own personal gain. Yah, that was a lie, but there does appear to be some concern for the future timeline.
Picard's speach to Rasmussen completely contradicts that, though. Dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks...
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i'm sure that, like the "regular" Prime Directive, the temporal Prime Directive is open to at least some interrpretation from each captain. We have seen kirk, picard and janeway willfully breaking the prime directive (i don't remember sisko ever breaking the prime directive) and they are still captains, so i imagine it is the same with temporal mumbo jumbo.
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