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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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But why assume it's not true? What's wrong w/the Breen not having a frozen homeworld?

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Perhaps the Breen are not indigenous to their nicely toasty homeworld.

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Shik: Well, then it wouldn't be their homeworld, would it?

Monkey: It's been said before that the Breen are from a frozen planet. Weyoun's the only person who says otherwise. And who trusts him? Are we supposed to think that someone say a Breen and said "I wonder why he's in that suit? I guess his planet must be frozen." and everyone accepted it as fact?

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Well, he directly addressed the fact that it was a commonly-held notion that they came from a frozen planet, but that it was actually a myth.

He didn't just say: "The Breen come from a tropical world, you know." That would be a contradiction.

What he said was (I can't remember his exact word order, but it was to this effect) "Despite what the intelligence reports will tell you, the Breen's homeworld isn't really frozen at all. It's tropical, actually. Quite pleasant..."

There's a distinction. He didn't just say something different from what we've always heard with no explanation. He said something different from what we've always heard and then revealed that what we've always heard was a misconception.

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At the time, I thought we were witnessing some cunning misdirection. The Founders disease seemed to be accelerated by heat, much to the delight of the Cardassians, I imagine. In a worst-case-scenerio (Allied victory), what better place to send the Founders in the Alpha quadrant than the Breen homeworld, a very cold place where they could, perhaps, lie dormant for some time. And no one but the Breen have ever been there! So of course Weyoun is going to try and hide that fact.

But, as usual, I was incredibly wrong.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Well, I don't see any evidence of deception. I think it was an attempt by the writers to make the Breen seem more threatening by playing up the mystery of them. At this point, basically ALL we knew about them was that they supposedly came from an icy world. Now, we learn that even that basic conception was wrong. We know even less about them than we thought, which wasn't much to begin with.

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quote:
Are we supposed to think that someone say a Breen and said "I wonder why he's in that suit? I guess his planet must be frozen." and everyone accepted it as fact?
It's not that unlikely. Everyone thinks that humans only use 10% of their brain because "everyone knows that, duh". Common theories can quickly become "facts" in peoples minds, even if the theory is completely wrong.

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David Templar
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I'm with Mim on this one, I think the writers were trying to strip what little we do know about the Breen. Which is annoying.

Maybe there was some great catastrophy on the Breen homeworld which caused their cold planet to become warm (i.e. a meteor impact), and it happened recent enough for the Breen race not to have adapted to their new environment...

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Considering what we (assume we) know about the Breen's biology, I doubt anything in their ecology aside from the simplest of microbes would be capable of adapting to such a drastic environmental change.

Without technological assistance, that is. My point being that I think the Breen could only have survived such a catastrophe through fancy refrigeration technology, regardless of how long ago it occured, as the change would be too drastic to allow higher lifeforms to survive. I realize this is pretty obvious, or unnecessary, or boring, but this post is my current distraction from homework, and thus drags on.

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Anyway, its stated that the Breen homeworld's climate is tropical.

If you dont like it, dont try to bend the facts and say 'oh well, its Weyoun.. you cant belive him.'

Its not very smart to gave the whole "i dont like it so I will draw some lines a little farther then they were made to go to make the facts fit my story" additude.

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Er...why not?
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