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As regards Reed's accent, it's plain from the trailers that he speaks in that fake English accent which Americans think we all speak in. The one that Liz Hurley does (yes, she is putting it on).
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LOL Dukhat.
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Ya know, I've been to England, I've heard real English people talk. And the fake stuff and the real stuff seem pretty close. You'd probably say the same thing about Britons faking American accents. And most of them (stage anyway) are pretty damn bad.
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You may not but from what I can tell, the Gay and Lesbian community wants one on. I think they did try to blow Garak out of the closet during DS9's run.
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So the gay & lesbian community is dictating terms to Star Trek & Rick Berman? If that's the case, I wish the gay & lesbian community would tell him to design a more original looking ship.
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The big thing is the focus on any particular character, they haven't overplayed the black or pointy eared ones, so don't go through and froce a bunch of crappy acting on now.
Maybe a gay vulcan, or worse, Horta.....
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But I have to speak up and say it would be wrong to just 'introduce' two atrractive lesbian characters simply for the fanboys. I for one, being completely straight and being all for gay rights have no interest whatsover in lesbians and their sexual activities. They could be blond and beautifual or whateer, but the mere act of them kissing and getting down to it does not appeal to all straight men. Besides, if they are to do a gay character, be it male or female it should be for the right reasons.
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"Lieutenant, these aliens live according to the Arisiotaelian Ideals." "Aristotle was gay, you know." "Oh, shut UP about it already!"
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Seriously, a gay character sounds great - in fact, I hope that they pay attention to the actual percentage of gays in the general population (estimated at 10%) [http://www.sexualitybytes.ninemsn.com.au/adult/sexuality/Percentage.asp]. In a ship of 100+ persons, we should have at least 10 gay crewmen. Having just one makes him 'token'. Having 10 or more would make them a part of society.
Also seriously, they could make GREAT strides by totally eliminating that 'accent' - you know the one - Jack Truman uses it on Will & Grace. I had a friend who came out - and started using it. I had to remind him that 'I knew him when' - and that he was aiding a stereotype ("please use your Westcoast Canadian accent when around me, okay? Gay is a lifestyle, not a speech impediment"). Sure enough, he could turn it off and on like a lightbulb.
If they can keep from using OGSB (obviously gay stereotype behavious) on the show, Enterprise could conceivably go far in aiding the acceptance of gays in primetime - not as a gag or theme, but as a simply accepted 'of course'.
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quote:Originally posted by Spike: Who's gay in Xena?
I've never watched it, so I wouldn't know any names, but isn't her sidekick supposed to be a lesbian? My girlfriend used to watch it, and she tells me that Xena and Gabrielle, while both have been with guys, have kissed and dreamed about having sex with each other. Sounds like they're at least bi to me. Point remains: gay characters don't hurt ratings.
quote:Originally posted by Michael_T: You may not but from what I can tell, the Gay and Lesbian community wants one on. I think they did try to blow Garak out of the closet during DS9's run.
You can't really blame them, since Andy Robinson intentionally played him as bi. He even wrote it into his Garak biography novel, A Stitch in Time.
If you really want to know exactly what involvement the gay community has had in trying to get a gay character, see this webpage.
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