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So, what's being said here is that they should start naming aliens w/ human names, like, for example, "Spock", or "Lon", or "Dax", and stop giving them non-human sounding names like "Berlinghoff Rasmussen", "Devinoni Ral", or "Kodos".
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What do you mean was, Mark?
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: So, what's being said here is that they should start naming aliens w/ human names, like, for example, "Spock", or "Lon", or "Dax", and stop giving them non-human sounding names like "Berlinghoff Rasmussen", "Devinoni Ral", or "Kodos".
You betray your ignorance. Berlinghoff, Rasmussen and Kodos are, in fact, existing names.
But I give up. I'm obviously in a group of closed-minded individuals here. If you like the status quo so much with names like Phlox, Xon, Neelix and Lwaxana, you deserve what you'll probably be getting from B&B. Just don't even think about complaining about their lack of originality in a few months.
Chill. I really want to shove your arrogant self through a window.
Why can't people just WAIT until Enterprise comes out before they start bitching and ripping out their hair? Still, combared to Crobato ("bend over and shove it up yer' ass!"), you're a regular Saint Benjamin (whoever he was).
Archer steps out of the shuttle, looks around. "Hello, I'm captain Jonathan Archer of the Enterprise, and this is my CMO, Dr Phlox." Behind, him, the doctor coughes politely and says "Actually, it's Dr Phlox." Archer: "Yes, um, right."
The natives begin discussing with the landing party, and over and over again Archer keeps saying "Dr Phlox" and the natives wonder "Don't you mean Dr Phlox?" "Is 'Phlox' some sort of an affectionate nickname for 'Phlox'?" "You really mean you can't tell the difference between 'Phlox' and 'Phlox'?" "Is it 'Phlox', as in 'grebiniphlox' or 'Phlox' as in 'aminiphlox'?" "Oh, for pmoxssakes, a long or a short 'Phl'?!"
"Uh, Doctor, how to put this politely...? Is your captain perhaps a bit, um, you know, challenged?"
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"Or if you absolutely need it to be non-American, it could be named Lee, Tchaikovsky or Sivaramakrishnan. Anything to break the stereotype that alien languages can't possibly produce a name that sounds human."
There are plenty of Star Trek alien names that sound human. "Lwaxana" and "Deanna" sound pretty human, but not culture specific. "Worf" sounds like the English word "Wharf". "Kira" is an already existing name.
They're all fine. But J'onn J'onzz? An alien name that just happens to sound like the most common surname in English, and one of the most common first names? Yes. Do you want a security chief called "Keef S'mif".
And in any case, using comics as an example of good names is like using Sol as an example of a typical aboriginal Autralian.
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I never said it was a good example, just the only example available, which shows how rare it is. Things like Worf sounding like wharf don't count, either. Never heard of anybody named wharf. Or Quark or Rom. Deanna is a real name but doesn't count because she was probably named by her human father.
It seems useless to engage in introducing new ideas here. People would rather demonstrate their wit. I suggest breaking out of the X clich� just once and all of a sudden I'm sarcastically accused of wanting every alien to have not just a human name but an American name. Instead of debating the idea as a whole, they just lock onto a single point: "J'onn J'onzz" is stupid.
quote:It seems useless to engage in introducing new ideas here.
So, you're basing this assumption on the ONE topic in this forum in which the people here don't agree with you? Look, there are tons of topics here, and plenty of people interested in hearing new ideas. But you're just going to have to get used to the fact that not everyone will always agree with you. Example: In my personal opinion I believe that there were two U.S.S. Melbournes at Wolf 359, the Nebula version and the Excelsior, simply because I saw them both on screen. A lot of people here disagree with me, but I'm not losing any sleep over it, or thinking that these people have narrow minds just because they don't see things my way.
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"I never said it was a good example, just the only example available, which shows how rare it is. Things like Worf sounding like wharf don't count, either. Never heard of anybody named wharf. Or Quark or Rom. Deanna is a real name but doesn't count because she was probably named by her human father."
And Kira? Ro?
And I'm sure I've heard "Garak" outside of a sci-fi area too.
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