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For me whatever comes out of Spock's mouth in a conversation or spouting out facts, has to be the truth or close to it as you can get at that time. If Spock said that there was no face to face communications between Humans and Romulans, then there was no face to face communications between Humans and Romulans. Out of all the time he spouted calculations, and facts, he's going to mess this up? It was a war during the time of the founding of the Federation, everyone and their dog will know this by the 23rd century.
However lets fuck up the TOS, since one one will remember B.O.T.
I am not whining by the way, its just that you people are arguing over whether or not to take Spock's line seriously or not.
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I agree with Sol on this one -- his last post and his prior one to that.
I think that with the Romulans being as paranoid as they are - they weren't unwilling to show themselves to the human - it gives them a tactical and strategic advantage -- what better way to keep an eye on the humans than to have a Romulan spy double as a Vulcan.
The Vulcans seem pretty sneaking in this series... who's to say half these vulcans aren't romulan..???
Far fetched.. I know.. but, hey...
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Ah... in TNG's Data's Day we saw a Romulan playing a Vulcan ambassador...
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Saiyanman Benjita
...in 2012. This time, why not the worst?
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Hmm.... This is tough. However, this does not necessarily denote a lack of continuity. I'd agree that it may have been mostly the Romulans' choice to not use visual communications. It would definitely keep an advantage in their court, especially the weakness of their heritage.
As for Ferengi, not knowing their name, though maybe knowing their face could also be an advantage. In TNG, they mention that they've known about the Ferengi for some time. They've even had dealings with the Ferengi. However since nobody saw their faces in their dealings, they could not match them up. If they had dealings with Ferengi, not knowing the name of their species, the puzzle pieces aren't put together as easily.
It is also conceivable (however cheap on the writers' part) that many of the records from that time were destroyed or lost (maybe as part of the Romulan war...). Incontinuity on the part of the Star Trek Storyline is unavoidable with such an expansive timeline. Besides, the comment a couple pages ago about Star Trek Fans wanting to see their favourite species is a true one. And Ferengi, though more the comic relief than anything, is still amongst the top species.
Remember, our first contact with the Klingons was a disasterous one, right?
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Uh, we've been over that topic. Whose to say it wasn't disasterous? It doesn't matter if Archer & Co. think it went okay, it matters if the Klingons are pretty resentful of humans.
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If the episode is as funny as the promo, then I'm pretty sure it'll construe sufficient grounds for "recycling" the Ferengi.
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IIRC, the Ferengi were mentioned durring the Farpoint mission. Once by Picard and im absolutely SURE that Geordi told a joke involving the Ferengi durring that mission.
So we know that the Ferengi are known at least as early as 2363... with no real mention of first contact with the ferengi till.. well I dunno.
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Do what I do when they ,anage to screw up something. Repeat to yourself, over and over.
First Contact changed everything. The timline for TOS no longer applies. The Enterprise-E interfered with the time line, and , (gasp) nothing's the same anymore!
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