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Has anyone noticed that the torp area under the primary hull of Enterprise E doubles as the captain's yacht that we saw detach in "Insurection"? The area directly behind the torp tubes is the windshield of the yacht. Hmm...
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We don't really know what the mechanism for the torp launcher looks like though. It could have also been refitted since FC to add the Captain's Yacht.
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The black launcher is in front of the windshield. You can see it's shape 'carved out' in the nose of the Captains Yacht. The torpedos are lowered into this black launch tube from above. So the Ent-E can still fire torpedos from this launcher if the Yacht is detached.
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Actually, the windshield of the yacht is not properly indented for the launcher to fit in - Eaves first drew it that way, but the producers decided it was too ugly, so the final CGI has a more rounded 'shield that probably won't fit properly into the cavity. See the scene where the Yacht detaches from the ship.
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Altair: "The black launcher is in front of the windshield. You can see it's shape 'carved out' in the nose of the Captains Yacht."
You are talking about the captain's yacht, right? Because 'carved-out shape in the nose' sounds more like the oval indentation in the nose of Data's Scout, the one with internal nacelles. I find no carving in the yacht-nose. Now I'm really confused.
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Well, the Yacht did originally have a deeply inset forward windshield, to accommodate the launcher. But that model was not accepted for the final movie because it looked too ugly. Instead, a non-dented windshield was used.
In contrast, Data's scoutship originally had a more curving and bulging windshield, but this was scaled back into the dinky triangular windows when it became clear that the interior set would be revamped from Voyager's "type 9 shuttle" interior set which had those small windows.
So basically, the Yacht went from garage-fitting to not-garage-fitting, and the Scout from stylish to ugly. IMHO, the latter was the more serious mistake.
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Funny, I think the scout is the most beautiful shuttlecraft ever built. It'll succeed the Danube in every role, even armament, having an internal torp-launcher... Do the shuttles have to look like DeLoreans to be functional???
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For Danube successor, I'd rather nominate the shuttle (or runabout - we never heard the official designation of the craft) Worf and Picard used.
It had all the goodies of a runabout - torps (or at least iso-whatever pulse launchers, labeled as torp tubes by Eaves), phasers, seriously big warp nacelles, transporters (and probably not the dinky emergency units of standard shuttles, since the pad assembly was so prominent), and lots of unexplored interior space with impractical nooks an crannies and a far too small entry door.
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But that shuttle was only 3/5 of a Danube's length, the scout is one metre longer, according to most charts...
You had a briefing room in the Danube, I'm sure you'll find one in the scout as well. I don't think the smaller shuttle would even be given an individual registry.
Well, that's all the time we have, be sure to watch us in "Galaxy Vs. Sovereign" next week!
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According to the making of ST: Insurrection the shuttle is about 15 meters and the scout about 25 meters. The Yacht is (guess what!) about 35 meters.
And I believe Picard said he would take a shuttle to go after Data. I'm not sure though...
I tried to make sence of the internal structure of the scout, using the side view and the ladder behind the cockpit. The best I can come up with is that the spine has two decks, and the wings one. But I think that the scout still has less internal space than a Danube class Runabout.
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Danubes have micro-torp launchers, and I could swear we've seen 'em fire full-size torps, too. More efficient use of available space... Call me wierd (*waits for it*), but I'll take the Type 7 shuttle and Danube runabout to the Type 11 shuttle and Talon scoutship any day of the week.
Also, the Galaxy-template Captain's Yacht is much nicer than the Sovereign-template yacht, in my very unhumble opinion...
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