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Peregrinus
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Wow. It's been YEARS since anyone accused me of being a troll. You started the whole thing by casting aspersions on my preferred mode of conveyance -- that, incidentally, I spent fifteen years lusting after before I could manage to acquire. It is a good car, and a pretty car, and I'm sorry you don't think so.

Now, then. Moving away from the fact that Nimrod's a turnip-spinning, DeLorean-hating aesthetically-demented cheesehead...


Yeah, the runabouts were part of the Enterprise's stable, and I like to think they weren't the only ones on board either. Look at the size of the main shuttlebay, as well as the associated hangar facilities. Three runabouts could have been parked to one side just inside the doors without cluttering the deck at all.

--Jonah

[This message has been edited by Peregrinus (edited March 17, 2001).]


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Nim
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Get a stiff upper lip, son.
I have nothing against deloreans really, it's just common to joke about, carwise, ever since "Back To The Future". MJ Fox said it himself. But you HAD to take it as a personal attack, what can I say?
I never use my turnips in anger, and you had no reason to react like this. I don't care what you think of DeLoreans and Danubes, and neither should you vice versa.
Now let's start all over, ok?

Have we gotten satisfactory answers on the Ent-E torp thing? Shall we summarize?

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Peregrinus
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Summary: "Everything is all messed up, sir!"

--Jonah

P.S. Nimrod: You DID start it by calling DeLoreans boxy and ugly...

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Nim
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Yeah, well that's MY opinion. And I will not start discussing car aesthetics here. Period.

If you're so horny for a car-debate, make a thread about it.


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Peregrinus
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All right. Then how 'bout the fact that it was a comparison to the Danube, thus indicating you find THEM blocky and ugly, too -- again getting this one's dander up.

But see, I can deal with someone not particularly liking some ship design or other. That's personal preference in a fantasy environment. But by being oblique and employing a real-life comparison, you inadvertantly cast aspersions on something a lot more tangible and dear to me even than my beloved Danube, seeing as how my DeLorean is a real car in my real life, and much more of a reflection of my personality than any preferences I may have in Trek.

Take the advice of the tag line on the "Officer's Lounge" and don't bring reality into the mix of these discussions. Toodles...

--Jonah

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Sol System
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"my DeLorean"

Are you saying you actually own one? Pictures, please!

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I'm confused. Is Peregrinus bossing Nimrod around?

FIGHT!

Go Nimmy beat him down with a double assault of turnips and seniority!

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Sol: Yes I do. I'll see about pics. It may be a little while, as I get easily distracted, and also have a tendancy to take up to six months to go through an entire roll of film (that's right -- no digital camera).

UM: Not trying to be bossy. Just got rubbed the wrong way when Nimsy dissed both the Danube and the DeLorean in one breath, when I happen to be more than a little fond of both vehicles.

Zort!

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What's wrong with having streamlined starships and aux. vehicles? It's the Trek universe and I'm sure there's an explaination other that Berman and Bragga have the power to change designs to their liking. Perhaps it's a tradition thing?

And don't bag on the Danube, they are very cool, although I'd only ride onboard the Rio Grande since it seems to survive more than other runabouts.

As for the captain's yacht on the Enterprise-E, it should have remained with the recessed window so we wouldn't be bitching about it.

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Sol System
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Jonah, the reason I ask is because, IIRC, you live in or around Seattle, and the idea of seeing such a car, which to me exists solely in the realm of films featuring Michael J. Fox (not counting Doc Hollywood), juxtaposed with locations that I know to be real gives me some sort of otherworldly chill.

I suppose that may sound odd, because it is. But I like that sort of thing. It's like being in detention in high school and looking around only to realize that Molly Ringwold and Judd Nelson are there too!

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"Take the advice of the tag line on the "Officer's Lounge" and don't bring reality into the mix of these discussions."

Wow, we're taking executive action. This is actually amusing. But sorry, I don't see any truth in your claims...
Listen man, you obviously can't handle this matter professionally or you would've taken my first chance at reconciliation and peace. That's ok, there's a lot of guys like you, not completely adjusted to the terrains of forums.

I will however NOT let this board polarize into a DeLorean-poll, although I think that's what you're trying to do.
I stand by my comment about the relation btw it and the Danube, if you can't take it as a man (Yes, people like different cars) then start some other thread instead of making an exhibition of yourself, although you have no grounds whatsoever for furtering this spectacle, other than a childish reaction over a teeny weeny comment.

And by the tone of your posts, I can hear you're pretty agitated, probably by thinking you've been very wronged. The feeling will only get worse if you keep this up, it won't go away, as I can simply bounce back any and every emotion-packed argument you try to make... And I have no interest in fighting with new members over trifles like this. (I'll bet you'll convert that statement as being aimed at your precious DMC...)

Here's an idea. Find a DeLorean chat group or something that you can have on the side. Maybe they can give you what you need.

(See this? This is called diplomacy. Look it up sometime)

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Guys...I think what began as a bit of the ha ha at the expense of wacky modern design has gotten crosswired and rerouted at every point. It would not be good for us to forget that we love all the lovely people, regardless of whether their car doors swing out or up. Yes?

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Thank you for that olive branch.

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Just to clear things up, the Captains Yacht was on the Ent-E in FC.

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Nimrod: That's not diplomacy. That's patronizing. I actually WASN'T getting antagonized by most of this -- and I still can't figure out how to enable the graphical smilies -- but I can see upon review how my tongue-in-cheek (or rather, raised eyebrow) replies were seen as such.

I'm not trying to turn this into a DeLorean popularity contest, and your suggestion that I find a DMC forum struck me as very condescending. You began this by making a tiny comment comparing DeLoreans to Danubes, and I requested clarification, since said comment did not make clear if you liked the styling of the vehicles in question or not. You don't. Got it. I find that unfortunate, but I'm not about to try and alter your aesthetics, misguided though they may be (see, this is where I'd insert a wink-smiley if I knew how to do so).

At this point I made what was supposed to be a wry commentary on how you should be careful about dragging real-world comparisons into a thread without knowing if that comparison will be viewed the same way by everybody, by graphically pointing out that we had diametrically opposing views of both the DeLorean AND the Danube. You responded by not responding to my point, and attemping deflectory humor. I responded in kind, and we went back and forth like that and I THOUGHT we had gotten it hammered out when I made what I was hoping would be the last post on the subject, where I again was trying to put a wry spin on things. You then called me a troll, which I have never in twelve years of posting been accused of, and things went downhill from there. Hopefully, this gets everything straight and we CAN drop it.

Back to the relevent stuff:

Sol, I'm FROM Seattle. I currently live in Southern California.

As for design styling... The Danube design had clear roots going back through the Type 7 shuttle all the way to the TOS shuttle. The new stuff seems to all be coming from a completely different design firm that the one(s) responsible for the past hundred years' worth of small craft design. I'm not saying I dont like it. It's just a little too jarring a shift with no transition between styles.

--Jonah

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