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But because it never materialized, the Endeavour mentioned is the same ship we've always heard of. (A Nebula.) I think that the Nebula we actually see is the Lexington.
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I see absolutely no reason for the Endeavour to be tied to Wolf 359 just because Captain Amisov had a log that talked about the Borg. Maybe he made it when reports came through about the aftermath of Wolf 359, or any Borg incident, and was just expressing his opinion on the situation!
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Oh come on people. Its a big story. Until we know otherwise, we can make up any story we want. We know one ship survived. We know Amasov is a starship captain and that he has a well respected opinion of the Borg.
The rest is left for us to fill in. There are no definitive answers. So whatever is the most interesting story to us, is for the time being (and likely forever), is what 'actually' happened.
You can say Amasov is some guy flying a POS Miranda somewhere or you can have some goddamn imagination and just go along with somebody's interesting interpretation or make something up on your own.
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But why would Janeway be reviewing Amasov's logs, if he'd just been on the sidelines? It makes more sense if he was in a major engagement with the Borg -- and was notable as the only captain who got his ship out intact. The survivor of a massacre like Wolf 359 would give him that kind of fame.
Now, I'm not discounting the possibility that there was some other incident -- that's certainly possible too.
But remember that Starfleet downgraded the Borg threat after the first big invasion, since they believed that another wouldn't come for a while. But they wouldn't do that if the Borg were still attacking Starfleet ships between 2368 and 2371.
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There is still no proof that any ship survived Wolf 359. I personally believe the Ahwahnee did (registry be damned), but I think Endeavour had absolutely nothing to do with the battle.
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We know that 39 ships were destroyed at Wolf 359, and I'm sure the figure of 40 participating in the battle has been mentioned, or is it just a fan myth? Either way I have to agree with Minutiae Man, in that it is unlikely Amasov participated in another Borg incursion. Any Borg presence in Federation space is major news, Picard himself in First Contact referred to the Borg attack as something he'd dreaded for 6 years. So it's probable they were the only ones, (the First Contact incident and Wolf 359).
The other alternative is the Endeavour engaged the Borg at another point between New Providence and the final battle at Wolf 359.
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As I mentioned before (and this will be, what, the 3rd time?), the Borg have had incidents with other ships plenty of other times. Tombaugh and Excalibur had seperate incidents that were in no way related to Wolf 359 or Sector 001.
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As a matter of interest, exactly where were the starships Tombaugh and Excalibur when they encountered the borg? was it even mentioned? if not then they could also have possibly been at wolf 359....or not.
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I know for a fact that a date was mentioned for one, if not both Tombaugh and Excalibur. I know that the date was around the 2350s. Tombaugh was mentioned in the episode where Seven gets all the assimilated voices in her mind. I forget which episode Excalibur is mentioned in. The Excalibur I seem to remember just said she had lost 9 or so crewmembers.
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In this case maybe there was indeed some other more minor incident. Remember 'I Borg', and the two parter 'Descent'? Although these events involved the Borg they were not related to a major, all out attack of the Federation. So in truth there probably were additional ones involving ships other than the Enterprise-D.
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I believe someone said they were going to assemble a fleet of 40 ships. It was never said whether that many or more or fewer actually showed up, or whether that was even supposed to be an exact figure in the first place.
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