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Timo
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If they did, they wouldn't tell us. It's a strategic advantage...

Smart Klingons remember that "only a fool fights in a burning house". And smart Klingons probably get to design Klingon starships. It's only the mindless minions of the great warriors who need to be indoctrinated with all that "death before retreat" bullshit, which makes it so much easier for the great warriors to retreat safely.

I think Rick S did say that the top part of a Vor'cha (and supposedly a Negh'var as well) would be capable of separation. The role of the separated module was unclear, though. The bow section would naturally serve as a lifeboat, considering that it was manned with the top officers of the ship to begin with.

A BoP probably wouldn't need a shuttle, but it has a cargo bay that can accommodate two humpback whales (although pray tell where the doors are - apparently they are of the explosive-bolt type, not something you open and close regularly). The bigger ships would be likely to need shuttles since they cannot land.

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Gosh damn it, I meant quantum filament. You know, the big pink thing in TNG's "The Loss" that had the two dimensional things carrying the Enterprise into it that also caused Deanna Troi to lose her empathy.

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Well, we do know canonically that they don't run away from torpedoes. Even when they know they are going to do die. Even though those particular Klingons had no honor. And even though they theoretically had time to abandon ship.

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In Undiscovered Country you mean? they sure as hell didnt.. the first torpedo they had no idea it COULD hit them, so they didnt do anything about it.. and then after getting hit with their shields down, it pretty much eliminated most of the ships running capability.. and ill count the time lepse but do you REALLY think Chang could have run to an escape pod? or that he would want to.. i doubt anyone in a small BOP scout could get away from being pounded by two Federation heavy cruisers with shields down

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And Lursa and B'Etor. Yes, there would disadvantages to abandoning ship, but one would think that those might receive more consideration than the apparent default option of standing and staring at the viewscreen. Although I will admit, at least Chang got off a cool one-liner, which makes it all worth it in his case.

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quote:
Originally posted by CaptainMike:
...retreat is an option for Klingons...



The proper Klingon term would be "advancing towards the rear" [Wink]

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In the last DS9 episode with Kor, we see a BOP evacuated down to a skeleton crew and sacraficed to ensure the survival of the other three ships, and the majority of the Klingons aboard.

There is certainly proof that Klingons realize that at times an unnecessary sacrifice is stupid if it does nothing to further the goals of winning a war.

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In the Fact Files, the top aft pod of the Negh'Var is labeled as shuttlebay.

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quote:
Originally posted by David Templar:
The top part of the Vorcha is not a separate craft. It contains the main bridge and the aft disruptor emitter.



Uh... err err err

The top part of the Vorcha in the back is not where the main bridge is located. The Main Bridge is located in the forward area, near the nose. Same with the d-7, BoP, and NeghVar.

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David Templar
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Really? I thought that was the Klingon equivelent of a battle bridge. Of course, this is all from the blueprint of the Playmate Vor'cha cruiser. Strangely, Playmate's pretty bang-on with these prints.

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The AMT/ERTL model is labelled similarily. Of course, it also calls the thing a K'Vort class ship, so what do they know?

J: The part we mean it the large structure at the front and top of the next, just before the forward claw like part that is rumoured to seperate. The square raised area on top of THAT is sometimes called a Battle Bridge or weapons bridge. By, er, some people.

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David Templar
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Well, let's go back to that episode where a Vor'cha got hit by one of its own mines. Can someone take a look to see if the after whatever-it's-called looked like it was welded on or clamped on?

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The Vorcha would appear to have three bridges. One on top of the far aft "daughtercraft", one on top of the central raised area (this is likely the std bridge for main body), and one on top of the removable fwd weapons module.

The Negh'var appears to have a similar setup but it lacks the central brige. It is meant to have the daughtercraft according to Sternbach's sketch and it has the same separation line as the Vor'cha for the fwd weapons head.

IMO both the Negh'var and Vor'cha have there shuttlebays on the underside centerline of the main hull. There are areas on the bottom that look like hatches for shuttle or cargo bays.

The small white squares on various locations on the Negh'var and Vor'cha may be escape pods.

The D7/K't'inga shuutlebay is almost certainly located at the top of the wedge shaped thing at the back. Tradional looking doors can be seen on the back (above the impulse engines).

I don't think the BoP has a shuttlebay at all.

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Someone should ask Rick Sternbach these questions - seeing as he designed the bloody thing ;o)

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