Topic: The Changing Face of Evil: Graveyard anyone?
Amasov Prime
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I noticed it a while back: Is the graveyard at the end really CGI? It seems pretty difficult to create so many 'wrecked models' in CGI (they were only there for a moment in the background) whil you could easily use physical models. Does anyone know more about that scene? There was a wrecked secondary hull of a Galaxy visible, as well as this baby:
Is it me or is that a 'Curry-type-but-we-all-call-it-Shelly-allthough-it-is-Shelley'-class ship? Don't tell me that's a Sabre. Please, don't tell me...
The pylons are all wrong for a Galaxy, connect above the secondary hull, and the secondary hull itself is too squat and fat for a Galaxy. As for the Saber, it's a Saber - upside down and top facing us. The magazine shows a little more than your cap, but it's pretty clear.
Mark
[ February 10, 2002, 14:39: Message edited by: Mark Nguyen ]
Amasov Prime
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Not entirely convinced that it's really a Nebula. Shouldn't there be any... remains from the saucer? Or is this the proof that the Nebula can seperate? OK, I admit, the phylons look a bit weired. But...
...the Sabre. Why no Shelly? Give me a Shelly! I don't want Nebulas and Excelsiors and...
...hey, BTW, there were other 'things' flating around. Any chance there is something we haven't seen yet? Neither the Encyclopedia nor the DS9TM reach that far. If I had better shots of that scene, I could do an analysis, but... but... *runs out crying and screaming something about DS9-DVD's*
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If you know it's spelled "Shelley", why do you keep typing "Shelly"? Should we start referring to you as "Kyl Amsov"?
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I personally think its the "shelley" type of starship which we apparently don't like very - personally I actually liked that design when i saw it being towed!
*gets pelted with rotten tomatos*
Anyway, when we get down to it - does it really matter???
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Amasov Prime
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: If you know it's spelled "Shelley", why do you keep typing "Shelly"? Should we start referring to you as "Kyl Amsov"?
I became used to it, TN.
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Regarding the graveyard being CGI -- it's my understanding that there are two parts to a computer model -- the 3D diagram itself, and then the texture, which provides the color and details.
Couldn't the artists simply modify the texture map to show the damage on the outside, and make it APPEAR to be 3D?
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Yes, or they could just rip out a section of polygons and darken the texture map a bit. Its really not that hard to create damage in CG, its no more difficult than doing it on a physical model. Just look at the Equinox & Voyager's Year of hell.
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A Sabre "saucer" looks almost round, despite being really angular, when you look at it from a distance. I'd assume, however, that we could see some of the 3D detail of the ship even at this distance. The "tail" of the ship appears very flat and shadow-free, which I wouldn't expect from a Sabre.
Then again, that nacelle placement does seem unique to the Sabres. Those nacelles just look awfully thin...
quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: That's really the strangest position for an Excelsior-saucer I've ever seen! And the nacelles? Where are the phylons???
Right, click on this link and look at the picture below that of the Courier (modified Nova). OK, I'm talking about the Excelsior saucer in the top left. It's missing the front left part of its saucer - obviously been blow away by some torpedoes.
Now if you are talking about the plylons to the right of that with part of a ship's body - me does think that it is part of a Nebula - the pylons bend in the same manner as that class and the necelles appear to belong to that class and the Galaxy. As for Cpt. Kyle Amasov's comment about remains of a saucer - it either separated before that damage that we can see was caused or the saucer was totally blown away. It's more than likely the secondary hull of a Nebula.
That help anyone?
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