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quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: Maybe someone can help me with this one; a long time ago I found a page featuring information and designs from one of the FASA-books. It seemed to be pretty new stuff, they already included FC-ships (maybe even Prometheus). However, they also had some designs of ships featured in that or one of those books. One of them was the Wambundu-class. There were several others, too, but that's the one that looked most impressive for a design absolutely fitting to the given information. It was some sort of Proto-Steamrunner, two catamaran-style hulls, warp nacelles attached to the catamaran hulls, flat, and it looked modern (no Constitution-parts, for example). Can anyone provide a link to that page? I know it has to be out there.(The information given contained some non-canon ship names and registries, for example. And I remember the pages were sorted by date - something like '2210-2250', '2340-2370'.)
It was a great page, and this here remembered me that it still has to be somewhere out there...
As has been pointed out this is probably my site http://steve.pugh.net/fleet/ which includes loads of ships from fandom sources, RPGs, etc.
The idea of FASA (lost the TRek license in '87) having First Contact style ships is amusing. FASA only ever produced two TNG books, one of which contained just stuff seen in season one and the other contained some peculiar post-movie/pre-TNG ships of their own invention. See the following:
Anyway, enough of those old FASA doodles, the ships you were thinking of were from LUG who held the RPG license 1998-2000. They produced a book called 'The Price of Freedom' that contained bad artwork versions of the Miranda, Olympic, New Orleans and the FC ships; it also had their own versions of the Deneva, Apollo, Niagara, Merced and Rigel classes.
The later supplement 'Ship Recognition Manual, Volume 1: The Ships of Starfleet' was released on the internet after LUG lost the license and doesn't feature any illustrations but does include text descriptions of every starfleet ship class mentioned in TNG/DS9/VOY. In some cases retconning the pictures from the earlier book and mostly bringing the designs in line with what was then (2001) known about the Wolf 359 ships. I think Bernd's site was used as a referencer by the author.
The 'steamrunner-ish' ship you're thinking of is LUG's take on the Deneva class. It's an early 24th century transport - cargo pods would fill up the space between the spars.
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I have no idea. It obviously can't be LUG as it's ten years too early. It may well be FASA as most of the other screens are of FASA ships but I don't recognise it. I'll have a look through all the obscure merchant ships etc. tonight and get back to you.
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Hell, yes!
Many thanks to both of you, that's exactly what I was looking for!
And I just noticed how bad my image really was, compared to that Deneva.
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Well, the "Deneva" pic is nothing to be so proud of, either...
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^^^^
But with some modifications it's a good base for a design, don't you think? I'm currently drawing the Niagara, after finishing it - this week, hopefully - I'll try something entirely new. And I want to use parts of this design.
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quote:Originally posted by Identity Crisis: It may well be FASA as most of the other screens are of FASA ships but I don't recognise it. I'll have a look through all the obscure merchant ships etc. tonight and get back to you.
Went through all my FASA books and Space Flight Chronology last night and couldn't see it anywhere. Might be in one of the issues of Stardate that I don't own but as the other ships are in one of the main books I doubt it. Probably not a FASA ship then.
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Thanks for looking. I wonder what it is, it might not even be a ship. Anyone know who was responsible for the tng-art at the time of "Conspiracy"? Andrew Probert?
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While thinking about it, I seem to recall that image. Maybe it was just a memory of that screencap from the show, maybe I saw it somwhere else. The thing looks like a space station, side view. With four saucers. Something like Jupiter Station. Maybe it was the Art of Star Trek or a book like that where I saw early sketches of a new spacedock done for '11001001' (and I did not look for that episode name! ). They used the old one instead, but this could be a blueprint of the planned but never realized spacedock.
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