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Okay, here’s what I’m looking for. The following ships are all the supposed class prototypes of classes we know of. Their existence is taken for granted because of other vessels carrying that class name, but beyond that there is nothing in the canon regarding them. What I want to know is if there’s anything about these ships in non-canon (but still officially published, not just stuff you made up [from technical guides, novels, computer games, RPG’s, etc…that kind of thing]) sources in the way of registry numbers, etc. Stuff that’ll be good for me to add as footnotes in my Shiplist.
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The only role-playing game recent enough to have incorporated most of these ships would be the LUG thing, which Steve quotes on his page. So go and buy the handbook...
But there's one piece of info I can offer: the Cheyenne class was once described in a fan booklet of its own - not a very accurate work, but perhaps worth a look. James Dixon's chronology incorporates the info from this booklet (which I fear must be well out of print by now), and places the exploration cruiser USS Cheyenne at NCC 50000, with potentially Dixon-mangled dates of 2325 project initiation, 2337 first keel, and 2341 launch.
Believe it if you wish. I once held the booklet in my hands in a shop in Hannover, but didn't buy it, and have been kicking myself at regular intervals ever after. One highly interesting piece of trivia in there: the booklet describes the lifepods of USS Saratoga from "The Emissary" in detail, but presents these as the lifeboats of the Cheyenne class. This was probably the first printed work to have any info on these lifeboats ("Ashanti class" or something in the booklet, but R class according to some other source Dixon quotes).
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quote:Originally posted by Timo: The only role-playing game recent enough to have incorporated most of these ships would be the LUG thing, which Steve quotes on his page. So go and buy the handbook...
But there's one piece of info I can offer: the Cheyenne class was once described in a fan booklet of its own - not a very accurate work, but perhaps worth a look. James Dixon's chronology incorporates the info from this booklet (which I fear must be well out of print by now), and places the exploration cruiser USS Cheyenne at NCC 50000, with potentially Dixon-mangled dates of 2325 project initiation, 2337 first keel, and 2341 launch.
Believe it if you wish. I once held the booklet in my hands in a shop in Hannover, but didn't buy it, and have been kicking myself at regular intervals ever after. One highly interesting piece of trivia in there: the booklet describes the lifepods of USS Saratoga from "The Emissary" in detail, but presents these as the lifeboats of the Cheyenne class. This was probably the first printed work to have any info on these lifeboats ("Ashanti class" or something in the booklet, but R class according to some other source Dixon quotes).
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I have that book. I also have the USS Galileo's manual, but it's really poor, just four or five pictures in the whole book.
A could also provide the Dominion War-sourcebook, I downloaded it some time ago from the net. Maybe someone has the link. If not, I could send you that think (but I remember it was pretty large, about 5MB.). There was a shiplist in the appendix of the book, a list of ships participation in the battle of Betazed or something like that.
And I downloaded another sourcebook, the TNG Spacedock Advanced something. It had information on several Encyclopedia-based classes.
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That Cheynne booklet lists the U.S.S. Cheyenne as NCC-50000.
U.S.S. Chimera
LUG Lists the 3 Nacelled DS9 Kitbash the Chimera Class, and has the U.S.S. Chimera at NCC-71653. They ignored the Portland, I assume.
U.S.S. Korolev
LUG has this as NCC-59387.
Or something. Who knows. I == Suck.
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I could tell you something about the Sovereign from BC, but it's not on your list.
Let's see...
Andromeda: Yes, I know it. It seems to be a prototype design, nothing what Starfleet ever had before. And it's really large. As far as I know, they sold the prototype and some others to the Commonwealth. And the... *someone with a shotgun approaches behind him* ...on the other hand, let's forget that.
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: That's IT? Nobody has anything else for me? I thought we had some die-hard non-canoneers here!
Most tech fandom concerns itself with 2270-2290, and that's really about it. It flourished in the '80s and early '90s, before the Encyclopedia let us know all of these classes even existed. It is no surprise that fandom has little to say about them.
Of course, you asked for "official" publications... but other than LUG's role-playing guides, there aren't any official publications that deal with twenty-fourth century starships! When it comes to starships, "non-canon" generally means "fandom" by default, aside from the tech manuals, RPG materials, and recently the Starship Spotter.
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Part of that had to do with the available database, Ryan. Since a lot of the people doing fan artwork have problems working from screencaps (including me!), most of the ship designs were partly or wholly based on published material. Until the Encyclopedia came out, there was next to nothing out there for us to work with. Even so, much of what has come out since then is still inaccurate, based as it is on the Fact Files and the AMT/Ertl models (both the soul of accuracy ).
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Alex Rosenzweig suggested it to Mike Okuda and he gave it his "stamp of approval" though he admits that he can't be sure a future show or movie won't change it.
-MMoM
Hey, wasn't there a series of novle that dealt with the exploits of the U.S.S. Daedalus? Anyone?
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: U.S.S. Daedalus
NCC-170 according to Jackill's Daedalus Class Exploration Craft Data Sheets.
quote:U.S.S. Peregrine
Have we ever seen a Peregrine class with a name? Well actually, have we ever seen a Peregrine class? If Peregrine = Attack Fighter than it's fairly certain that there is no USS Peregrine as those fighters probably don't have USS names. If Peregrine = anything else then they've never been seen in Starfleet service.
quote:U.S.S. Soyuz
NCC-5300 according to the first editions of Jackill's guides. Somewhere between NCC-1941 and NCC-1961 according to the revised edition. Can check the exact number if anyone cares.
quote:Steve Pugh's site has been somewhat helpful, but it can also be limited in some cases.
Let me know what you need more help with and I'll try to dig out the original sources.
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