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David Templar
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Mim - Nope. The aliens had their own lil' ship, but all we see of their technology is a collection of futuristic camping gear.

Yeah, it seems that technologically advanced races uses pop-up tents. Just toss to deploy.

The hunting rifles reminded me paintball guns, their visual and sound effects are right out of Star Wars.

It's the 23rd Century, and we're still using low-light gear? Held onto our head with metal braces?

Didn't T'Pol and Trip find it strange that when Archer claimed that he was just "taking some scans", he held up his universal translator as proof? Yeah, Johnny's talking to trees again.

Those shapeshifters resembles certain species of Earth marine invertebrates. Basically Archer was conversing with, and falling for a giant sea slug. Man, they just never give him a break.

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Mikey T
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Why do I have the feeling that when Enterprise is over, TOS will be non-canon...

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I thought it already was... [Razz] [Big Grin]

*runs away and hides*

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MinutiaeMan
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On the idea of rogue planets...

I've read a few articles about the discovery of other planets in distant star systems. And from what I remember, a large number of those planets were found to be in irregular orbits, and also to be very close to their primary, the star. I'd guess that irregular orbits are much more likely to have the planet either swallowed by the star or chucked out of the system altogether.

Of course, so far we've only discovered massive gas giants -- not small Minshara-class planets. So the case could conceivably be different. But in the swirling maelstrom that some systems exist as, it's possible that the close interaction of massive gravitational bodies could eject a planet from a solar system.

...But then, I don't buy that bit about having a full atmosphere on this planet that hasn't condensed due to the extreme cold, or the fact that geological activity is the ONLY thing that keeps the planet warm. Isn't geological activity caused by the flexing and pull of the sun and the moon, similar to the effects of the tides? And just why did these thick jungle plants evolve massive leaves when there's no sunlight to be obtained? (It seems that this "strange new world" is in some ways too strange, and in others not strange enough.)

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Ryan McReynolds
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quote:
Originally posted by Boris:
If synthesizing unknown alien blood types is a simple matter, then how come that in "Journey to Babel" Spock had to donate blood to Sarek because they didn't have enough of his blood type aboard?

Maybe rare tpye-T green copper blood is a lot harder to synthesize than standard human(oid) blood. It was red, at least.

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And just why did these thick jungle plants evolve massive leaves when there's no sunlight to be obtained?


To absorb more air.

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"And from what I remember, a large number of those planets were found to be in irregular orbits, and also to be very close to their primary, the star."

Well, I don't know about irregular orbits, but there's a reason for that second part. Most extrsolar planets have been detected by the "wobble" caused by their gravitational effects on their stars. So the stars that wobble the most will be the ones that have really big planets right next to them. Thus, those are the planets that get detected.

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FOUND IT!!

Long-Destroyed Fifth Planet May Have Caused Lunar Cataclysm, Researchers Say

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/fifth_planet_020318.html

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David Templar
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quote:
Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
...But then, I don't buy that bit about having a full atmosphere on this planet that hasn't condensed due to the extreme cold, or the fact that geological activity is the ONLY thing that keeps the planet warm. Isn't geological activity caused by the flexing and pull of the sun and the moon, similar to the effects of the tides? And just why did these thick jungle plants evolve massive leaves when there's no sunlight to be obtained? (It seems that this "strange new world" is in some ways too strange, and in others not strange enough.)

Planet's contain a great deal of heat inside the core, which slowly radiates outward over time. The younger the planet, the hotter the core and more rapidly the heat release. I'd assume that planet's been floating around for a while, though, considering it wasn't near any star systems.

And that still doesn't explain all the foliage we saw. [Big Grin]

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There's a mention of a "Deneva Prime" from T'Pol. At least, it sounded like Deneva.
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*concurs*
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MinutiaeMan
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quote:
Originally posted by David Templar:
Planet's contain a great deal of heat inside the core, which slowly radiates outward over time. The younger the planet, the hotter the core and more rapidly the heat release. I'd assume that planet's been floating around for a while, though, considering it wasn't near any star systems.

As I understand it, the heat of a planet's core is caused by the constant pull of a star's gravity. Also, I think you're disregarding the vast, vast amounts of solar energy that a planet like Earth receives every minute of the day, whether it's day or night.

Mars is a very cold planet because it's further away from the sun, and thus receives less solar energy.

Just imagine how cold it would be with no star at all...

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Well, there's two kinds of heat here...

We're warm' that is, you and me and trees and rivers and air, because the sun heats us up.

The planet's core is warm because it is under intense pressure and contains a lot of radioactive substances.

Earth is geologically active due to the second source of heat, not the first. (And there is life, quite a bit of it, that's dependant upon geologic heat sources. Though very little of it comes in the forms of forests and mammal-like things.)

Mars isn't geologically active because it is smaller and thus has cooled more since it was formed than the Earth has, and also because, perhaps, it isn't made of quite the same mixture of stuff. The same goes for the Moon.

Planets and moons can recieve most of their internal heat from tidal forces, but these have to be extreme. Io, for instance. Earth would have to be a lot closer to the sun to recieve that kind of tidal stretching.

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MinutiaeMan
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Internal pressure... I didn't think of that.

BUT... as far as I know, Mars does NOT have a molten core. And just why is that? (I'm not sure -- it has something to do with a magnetic field, right?)

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David Templar
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quote:
Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
Internal pressure... I didn't think of that.

BUT... as far as I know, Mars does NOT have a molten core. And just why is that? (I'm not sure -- it has something to do with a magnetic field, right?)

I believe it's the other way around. Mars has a very weak magnetic field because it doesn't have a molten core.

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