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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Look here to read what it is I'm doing, and please see if you can be of any service.

http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/monkeyofmim/MMoM_shiplist.htm

And if anyone sees anything else wrong there, please let me know. But know that I haven't updated some of the runabout's entrie to include all of their eps yet.

Thanks a lot,
-MMoM [Big Grin]

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do you want to add ships from novels and comics.. i can tell you most off the top of my head..

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Your HTML and/or CSS is screwed up. In both IE6 and Opera 6 the Starfleet table starts off the left hand edge of the screen with no way to scroll to it; works okay if I maximise my browser window, but why have a big screen unless I want to see many windows at once? And in Netscape 6 some of the ship names don't appear.

Moral: don't use MS Word to generate HTML. [Wink]

Anyway on to the corrections:

USS Carolina. Registry NCC-160 and Class Daedalus should be in blue, it's a cock up on Okuda's part.

NCC-1701-B. Maybe it was listed as Alaska class in those fandom blueprints of the Alaska class battlecruiser, but in FASA the NCC-1701-C was a member of the (never illustrated) Alaska class.

USS Saratoga (ST IV version) also has a fandom registry of NCC-1892. Don't ask why, it's painful.

USS Valiant. Class Consitution should be in purple as there's no canon evidence for this (and indeed no way that TOS - 50 years could be a Connie even with the original idea that the Connies were ~40 years old as opposed to ~20).

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The fandom poster lists the Enterprise-C as Alaska-class. Hmm... I think there's a cool scrren name lurking there... "Phandom Poster"... Nah...

As for the Constitution-class Valiant, I like to think she was named after the earlier ship that went missing.

--Jonah

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What exactly do you concider 'non canon but reliable and worth including it'?

There are, for example, a complete list of Cheyenne-class ships with stats in the Cheyenne class Orientation Manual (that's where the NCC-50000 comes from), I have several novels with ship names (most notably the Dominion-wararc story from that four-parter, which mentiones several ships participating in the final battle), There's a large table of ships with registry and class in the appendix of the Dominion War sourcebook and there are Jackill's SRM's, but I wont tell you all the names in that book because if I did, we'd still working on that next year. [Smile]

Oh, and for your information, maybe you read the Nemesis-script, maybe not (the link is posted at Dark Horizons, look for the news at Trekweb). But there are several ships mentioned; (SPOILER, hehe...) - the Titan, of course, the Hemmingway (the ship that tows Enterprise back to the dock after the final battle) and the Talos (Commander Madden's former assignment). There's a scene in the film, shortly before the ship enters the Bassen-rift inside Astrometrics (huh!), and Data shows Picard where the fleet awaits Enterprise's arrival. I really hope they create a really good Okudagram with lots of names and registries and such. [Roll Eyes] . Just by the way. [Wink]

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Non-canoneers? Gosh, maybe you should form a club, call yourself, I dunno, the Catapult Cavaliers or something (and I defy anyone to recognise that reference). 8)

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Captain Kyle:

Like I said, all I'm still dealing with all canon ships (except for the Bonhomme Richard, Cygnus, Federation, etc.) but I'm just filling in gaps in our canon knowledge about them with what has been given in non-canon sources. Again, I'm not using ships that don't at least exist already in canon, in some form. (Even if it's only a name, etc.)

Thanks for the Nemesis ships. [Smile]

-MMoM [Big Grin]

[ March 20, 2002, 11:39: Message edited by: The Mighty Monkey of Mim ]

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Everyone sing!

"Who's the leader of the club that's made for you and me?
"N-O-N, C-A-N, O-N-E-E-R!"

Erm... No, never mind...

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Stranger things have happened.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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A couple specific questions...

1.) Wasn't there some publication that gave a class and reg to the Aurora?

2.) Supposedly the TMP S.S. Enterprise is a Declaration-class starliner. Has there ever been a registry associated w/ this ship?

3.) Steve's site mentions a Canopus-class U.S.S. Antares from the Spaceflight Chronology. Is ther a reg mentioned?

4.) I could have sworn there was a class and reg in something for the S.S. Columbia from "The Cage."

5.) Have there been other regs (before Okuda) for some of the class ships like the Constellation or Galaxy or Intrepid?

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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Mim, it IS possible for a ship to not have a prefix.. i seriously doubt the Vulcans have a 'S.S.' anything

BTW.. Drexler & Mandel's Officer's Manual list Aurora as U.S.S. Aurora, NCC-1200 or NCC-1300, I'm not sure.. it might have had one of those funky TASstyle letter regs too.. but the schematic is grossly inaccurate, as is the fact that it is just as likely (if not moreso) it wasnt a Starfleet ship.

[ March 20, 2002, 12:21: Message edited by: CaptainMike ]

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I've got an old Fasa publication with a whole bunch of starship designs, several new and interesting classes, and ship names. Are you after this kind of stuff as well?

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Admiral:
I've got an old Fasa publication with a whole bunch of starship designs, several new and interesting classes, and ship names. Are you after this kind of stuff as well?

I'm after anything that fills in empty spaces on that list. [Smile]
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VP said: "Non-canoneers? Gosh, maybe you should form a club, call yourself, I dunno, the Catapult Cavaliers or something (and I defy anyone to recognise that reference). 8)"

Is that a Buckaroo Banzai ref? (from HK Cavaliers)
Of course, canon --> cannon --> non-cannon --> catapault.

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Nope. The name just popped into my head when I saw the thread title. . . it's an extremely obscure reference, I only mentioned it in the end because I was curious to see if someone else HAD read the same book I did (hint, there).

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