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Guardian 2000
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I saw in another thread someone say something about the Klingon Bird of Prey having one nacelle mounted inboard.

Where does that information come from?

I've always assumed, based on the small, flat nacelles of the D-7 and K't'inga, that the *wings* of a BoP were the nacelles. Granted, the wings are amazingly thin for the purpose, but I don't think it is outside the bounds of possibility. It also gives those silly wings something more to do, freeing up the precious internal space a Bird-of-Prey would otherwise lack.

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There was an Okudagram somewhere that showed about eight or so warp coils mounted down the centreline of the BoP, with the big glowy thing(tm) at the middle of the back of the ship lining up with the end of the coils.

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Huh . . . okay, I guess the humpbacks were in the warp coil plasma stream. :-)

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I always thought that those grilles on the back of the dorsal side were the warp field grilles and that two sets of warp field coils were to be found undernth.

The wings are not nacelles, they are some type of disruptor or other energy weapon.

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I think he meant the wings themselves, not just the tips.
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The wings don't glow at all, so I'll have to go with the glowy red thing in the tail of a BoP. [Big Grin]

'Cause, you know, those silly warp nacelles have a tendency to glow. Not always, but often enough.

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This really is weird, so the biggest part of the ship is now dominated by a warp nacelle.

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Nacelles only glow if there's some sort of window to let the light out.
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You can find the picture here:

http://members.aol.com/artbraune/bop-ds9-sm.gif

Think I got it out of the Making of DS9 book?

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If all that is occupied by coils, were is the quarters or the space where they kept the whales?
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It has always been my thought that each of the bumps was an inboard warp nacelle and the space between and below them was cargo, engineering, and crew quarters...

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That's what I thought too.
What book was that from again and who wrote it?

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That's an Okudagram (probably from "Blood Oath") reproduced in The Making of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine by Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens.

I have a fuzzy memory of a colour one (but rotated 90 degrees) with the coils in a similar place somewhere else. Probably not the Encyclopedia, seeing as nobody has seemed to recall that yet. Odd.

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It's possible the warp core is built into the very bottom of the BoP, kinda like how the warpcore of a Runabout is built into the very top. This would leave room for the crew and whales.

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The "five coils in single row" Okudagram was first seen in DS9 "Blood Oath", so it's sort of canon. It would seem to apply at least to the "DS9 size" of KBoPs, like the Rotarran or the one Dukat appropriated, in case you believe in differently sized BoPs. It's a bit difficult to claim that the whale-carrying version was as big as the Rotarran, or that the Rotarran was as small as the whale carrier... But doable, I guess.

I'd suggest placing those warp coils atop the hull and not at the bottom - it did seem that the whale holds were at the bottom part of the ship, even if the exterior did not have a visible set of doors there. There's this round thingamabob there at least which could be some sort of a door. And the exit ramp for personnel, seen in ST3, probably is hidden there as well.

I have no objection to devoting basically ALL of the aft hull to machinery and support systems. It is only logical to have different sections of the ship serve different purposes. All habitat functions could well be centered in the forward pod, for example. We never saw any extensive crew quarters aboard the tiny ST3/4 BoP, and the bigger TNG/DS9 BoPs were usually so big that all those ladderways and transporter rooms and crew quarters and whatnot could easily be located in the pod.

And it is Federation softness to think that the largest part of the ship should be accessible to the crew. Surely crew comfort would not be a priority for Klingons. Indeed, religious reasons might dictate that the crew quarters be deliberately cramped and uncomfortable.

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