Guys, not to take the whole thing too far, but we don't know what that is designed to represent.
On a Federation starship, those five thick lines in a sequence might designate warp coils. Then again, they might not.
However, this is a Klingon diagram. We don't know what the title says. We don't know the cultural symbols used to represent warp technology.
The point is, we do not know for certain what that diagram is supposed to represent. It certainly doesn't show everything aboardship . . . I see no quarters, or even the bridge. Why should we assume that's showing the warp drive? For all we know, that diagram title reads "The Pornography and Poetry Distribution Network", and those five thick lines are the designated wanking rooms on deck three, with reactive soundproofing and plenty of heavy objects for the warriors to throw at themselves.
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The Fact Files state that the two rather small protruding fins on the engineering hull are the warp nacelles. I don't know where they got the idea, but I like it.
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Well, after taking a close look at the studio models, I'd say those wee little ventral fins are a bit smallish for warp engines, even the wee Klingon ones.
But, as I was looking at the model, a thought came to me. Federation warp drives are a highly centralized affair, as were D-7 warp engines. When I first read your post, I thought you were talking about those odd roundish things on the dorsal rear, behind the silver wing-lock grills.
The more I look at it, though, the more the idea appeals to me . . . various warp engine components could be spread about . . . the odd roundish things could be something of import, as could the ventral finlets. The primary warp coils, however, could be very thin affairs located on the port and starboard of the impulse engine.
This idea appeals to me. Sure, it's contrary to my prior notion of the wings being the engines, but works nicely insofar as the wings could now be used not only as booms (to spread the weapons out), but as deuterium storage (not unlike modern aircraft engines carrying fuel in the wings).
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i always imagined there being warp coils in a double wound affair (kind of like each galaxy class nacelle having 2 coils) down the center of the hull. the bumps at the front of each shoulder could contain bussard collectors, and each bussard collector would lead to one of the sets of coils. the way you explain the whale compartment is.....temporal....space.....transducers.........mkIV. yeah, thats it. temproal space transducers mkIV. w00t!
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I agree that the Okudagram is more then likely displaying the location for the warp core itself, rather then the coils.
Its clear that they didn't really give the BOP that much thought on the subject of where the warp coils are. The only time I've seen anying suggesting where they could be located was Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home where we see Kirk and company on the HMS Bounty and as they approach higher warps, you can see a zoom-in on the large engine on the aft section of the ship glowing a bright red. While I think that those engines look more like impulse engines, why would they be glowing while at warp?
Then again, those same engines are glowing in Star Trek III: The Search For Spock when we see the BOP get out of the way as the Enterprise's bridge is blown apart as the self-destruct sequence begins.
The "grills" on both sides look like they may be warp coils, then again, they could be an elaborate hydrolic system for raising and lowering the wings. For all we know, maybe they have some uber-almost-impossible engine hybrid which unrealisitic combines the WPS and IPS in a foolish attempt to add detail to rusty old bucket-o-bolts.
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On the subject of bussard collectors, there need not be a warp engine assembly behind the thing. After all, the collectors simply suck in interstellar deuterium and it can't go straight into the nacelles for use. That stuff has to be piped to the main deuterium tank, then shuntted through the MARA to mix with its antimatter counterpart to create the energized warp plasma that then flows to the coils.
Technically, you could mount the collectors at the front of the ship, or anywhere on the hull for that matter. But I'd have to say that those cool red-glowing thingies look best on otherwise boring-looking nacelles.
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thanks, but we already knew all that. this is, afterall, a star trek forum of the highest quality.
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"...each bussard collector would lead to one of the sets of coils."
Apparently I took the above statement in a different manner then what you intended.
Yes, yes... at first its low-grade interstellar hydrogen which then "may be distilled [into] small amounts of deuterium for" yadda, yadda, yadda. The general point of my original post was that bussard collectors and warp nacelles aren't necessarily joined at the hip, and our Klingon friends may not have made use of them until the Vor'Cha.
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Once after staring at the BOP, I came to the conclusion that the two rectangular 'things' protruding backwards from the ship - either side of the 'glowing section' were the Nacelles. They fit with the D7/K'Tinga style Klingon nacelle shape. They are quite close in - but hey - we've seen nacelles in all sorts of sections of different ships over the years. Also - it might make sense, if you 'removed the wings' - you have the bulk of the ship - and those 'rectangles' are either side of the bulk of the ship. The wings are just 'extras'. The glow then could be channeled into the 'glowing section' at the aft section, rather like how the 'glow' on the Defiant comes out the BACK of the nacelles (in the grills). Maybe this works in smaller ships.
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