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Due to Duhkat's new thread about Robert Legato, I decided to reread Bernd's Wolf 359 project, and was just wandering aimlessly when I came upon this famous picture:
And then I was looking at THIS schematic that someone drew up, featuring a drawing with and a drawing without the pod.
And I've noticed something. The front of the pod is not identical to the back of the pod in the first picture posted. I guess you could blame the handle of the coffee mug on this, but you can clearly see the front of the pod doesn't taper to a smooth point like the back half does. Instead, it merely ends, and is cut at a diagonal, like...
A deflector dish!
The dish is hard to see because it's resting up against the edge of that coffee mug handle, and since the picture is rather bad it's hard to determine where the handle ends and the pod begins.
Now going further with this, I believe the pod is a Galaxy engineering hull model piece. The shape looks about right, the only difference is the neck as been removed and the rear has been sanded down so it has that smooth rear end. You can almost see where the curvature from the bottom of the Galaxy engineering hull is, where those three large cargo bay doors are located.
So, anyone else agree with me here?
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OMG, you could be right! The size is about right, and it would be only logical, cinsidering that one foreward end with deflector is left over from the kit.
The only thing that disturbs me is that there is no aft cut-out, but the perspective could have deceived us all the time.
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Yes, a deflector dish, although I didn't think this idea was anything new, as it was what I speculated when I built the model as seen here: (this is an old render from the ship when it was only half finished, it is the only one I have where I bothered to show the pod in any detail))
I don't have any other detailed views of the pod to hand, none on my server anyway, perhaps somewhere on my hard drive. The idea though that the modelling component used for this being the Galaxy engineering hull is definitely intriguing....
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The only problem with this theory though (and I had to investigate this when building the 3D model) is the scaling issue. For those struts for the pod which intersect with the edges of the saucer, the pod has to be rather large, and wide. The saucer is significantly wide, being elliptical, and when scaling the pod to roughly correspond with the available pictures of the Springfiled, the pod came up as being virtually circular, almost elliptical itself (across the X axis). This is not the shape, however, of the Galaxy secondary hull.
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I believe the struts are similar to the Oberth. They look like this:
___Saucer____ ..\______/ ....Hull
Forgive the crudity of my drawing, but the \_ and _/ would be the pylons. They go outward then up when coming out of the engineering hull. This would allow the pod to be the correct size, and allow the pylons to connect to the outer edges of the wide saucer. It is obvious to see the kink in the pylons, where they go from being mostly horizontal to mostly vertical.
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I agree in part, but I still believe the pod to be too wide to be the Galaxy secondary hull exclusively.
I just quickly loaded up the Springfield mesh and rendered a couple of images. I'm not saying that my pod here is correct, or accurate in shape, just how my mesh turned out after analysing and studying the available pictures...
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See, the thing with your mesh Red Admiral, is that fact that you just have those pylons slanting down. But I believe that the pylons slant downward, then they curve to an almost perfectly horizontal angle, which would allow them to go as long as they want, so your Galaxy hull could be the exact shape. If I could upload a quick sketch it might make more sense...
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Ah, right right right. I see where you're going now. And looking at the photo again I think you might be right! This could be a careless error on my part, although in fairness to myself it isn't obviously apparant :-), but yes, they do look like they're curving inwards. This is going to involve some remodelling on my part if you're right...
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That definatly is the way I pictured it, good job Red Admiral
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I think they should also be further down, just a fraction above the wide rim.
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