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Well, not the Kyushu yet. I'm still cleaning those up... the model is seen from multiple angles and from two different distances. But I do have the only views of the Firebrand and Princeton done. Freshly capped:

Niagara, dorsal view:
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/tngs4-niagaradorsal.jpg

Niagara and Freedom, dorsalish views:
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/tngs4-niagara-freedom.jpg

And as a bonus, the three primary Enterprise-D filming models:
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/tngs4-enterprisemin.jpg

And a dorsal peek at a Nebula variant (model sitting next to Okuda during interview):
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/nebula-variant.jpg

These were all still images scanned into the featurette, unlike the look at the Kyushu, which was the model dangling from the ceiling of Okuda's office and filmed in realtime. At least the Firebrand's registry seems confirmed. But unfortunately, the views don't reveal much else.

If you want to repost them on a website or something, permission is granted. All I ask is a credit via a URL. Kyushu is coming later tonight...

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Sweet thanks [Smile]

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Well, it's hard to tell from that one cap, but it looks to me like the Firebrand's saucer is supposed to be the same scale as the Princeton's. It could even be from the same mold -- which would make a lot of sense, given that the Firebrand and the Princeton were the two scratch-built models for Wolf 359. (Right?)

In that case, one of the Fact Files diagrams is a bit off. (Shocking, I know...) It would mean that both saucers have to be the same size, and both ships' nacelles would have to be the same size as the Galaxy-class.

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Wow, an actual decent view of a Freedom... That little blister on the bottom of the nacelle is wider than I thought. Perhaps it's the torpedo launcher?

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On to the Kyushu...

General views:
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu1.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu2.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu3.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu4.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu5.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu6.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu7.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu8.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu9.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu10.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu11.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu12.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/kyushu13.jpg

And closer views:
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/z-kyushu1.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/z-kyushu2.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/z-kyushu3.jpg
http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/z-kyushu4.jpg

Sorry about some of the rough edges... my capture software sucks. Anyway, anyone familiar with the AMT Enterprise-D kit can instantly recognize the parts used in the Kyushu... interesting that lower sensor/torpedo/whatever pod hanging off the engineering hull is mounted on a pole rather than being blended into the hull or on a longer support structure.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Wow, an actual decent view of a Freedom... That little blister on the bottom of the nacelle is wider than I thought. Perhaps it's the torpedo launcher?

Could be. But why would they put one there and then above the nacelle, a la Enterprise-A? (Then again these are kitbashes we're talking about...)
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any models in any of the interviews, like in the back grounds? Thanks for the images

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Wow, the New Orleans looks quite nice here. A nice way of taking the E-D's lines into a smaller ship like the Nova did with the Sovereign. Too bad we didn't get it in CGI later on.
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quote:
Originally posted by Akira62497:
any models in any of the interviews, like in the back grounds? Thanks for the images

The only one I noticed was the Nebula(?) variant, posted in the first message. Other than that, nothing new besides different views of the four foot Enterprise-D model, the Vor'cha, Excelsior, Reliant, and some other non-Wolf 359 ships. (Most of the interviews were done this previous year on a soundstage with a Star Trek Nemesis logo background. Only some snippets with Okuda and Sternbach were done in the art department offices.)
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what sort of non wolf359 ships?

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Right. Two things.

1) I am not almost 95% certain that there was no custom bridge piece made for the the Kyushu. That bridge module there looks almost certainly to be the top half of the captain's yacht from the 1/1400 AMT/Ertl E-D model.

2) I don't think the ventral pod is supposed to be extended like that. Think about it: that's the perfect place to put the mounting rod for filming. But the pod's in the way. So...pull off the pod & put it on a pole of sorts so that when it's replaced, it can simply slide into the mounting hole. In these shots, it looks as if it's been falling out. Of course, for show reasons, we could say that it's the mounting trunk for the pod, created for simple & easy swapability like the bridge units.

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quote:
Originally posted by Akira62497:
what sort of non wolf359 ships?

The ones I mentioned... lemme try to remember more... I believe they also showed the Type 7 shuttle, a side view of the "All Good Things..." Enterprise-D, master molds for the Warbird, Ferengi Marauder, and the Vor'cha, and a bunch of different angles of the Enterprise-D, mostly the four-foot model.

It's a shame some of these pics aren't better quality... some would be nice reference if they were clearer.

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I'm a little confuzzled about the Kyushu's ventral pod as well. Didn't we see a pic in the Chronology or something that pretty much told us that this pod was flush with the hull? Hang on a sec, I think Pedro may have what I'm talking about...

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Hmm, come to think of it, it may not be so conclusive after all...

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I do believe it's this shot Bernd has at EAS from "Star Trek Mechanics 4" that you're thinking of. But yes, there's absolutely no shadowing, thus making it seemingly flush up against the hull.

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Uh-oh... So, are we saying now that the ventral pod may indeed be suspended as these new pics show us? The pic from Bernd's site seemingly shows the model hung in the same place and orientation as the new screencaps...

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