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Lee
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It's one of the great unanswered questions of phaserology (I just made that word up - I rule) - does the Type-II phaser pistol seen in Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country (and also Star Trek 5: The Final Frontier, however Krenim informs me there was no ST5, it never happened, it's all my imagination) feature a Type-I hand phaser at all? Well, someone's just sent me an image that seems to indicate it does:

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gotta love those prop builders, always full of surprises.

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I always thought that TOS, TOS Movie-era type-II phasers depended greatly on the type-I inside them...

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The earlier ones seemed to need one in place to fire, but there wasn't even a hint of one hiding inside this pistol before.
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that could just be a replaceable thingamajinga. i like the idea of the removable type 1, though.
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In TNG, Type 1's fitted into Type 2's and both fitted into type 3's no? Then what about the phaser banks on a starship... Type 8 say... it has type 1-->7 as part of it's make-up?

Hmm.

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i don't believe that TNG phasers were like that. type 1's were totally separate from Type II's which were totally separate from Type III's, IIRC.
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Yes, and it is odd to think otherwise.

I do recall seeing some Sternbach concept drawings for a TNG "riot gun" which would involve slotting the II into a sort of rifle stock, vaguely similar to the Klingon disruptors.

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Cool. As an aside I think this has to be my favourite phaser design.

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Something I don't get is why no starfleet person ever "waved" the bem when firing, like a garden hose.
I mean, take TUC for example, when the initial salvo was fired into the klingon ambassador, no more beam was necessary in that hole, it was just air now, so why keep the finger on the trigger for another second? Why not turn it from side to side and sever the body?

One person with two of those phasers could hold a corridor for a long time with that capability. Shoot and wave, shoot and wave.

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Well done, Poet!

I'm curious, though . . . what's the trigger supposed to be? I would imagine the red and green thing are control buttons, with the trigger being the little silver round thing on top.

In any event, that's a teeny-tiny phaser . . . it makes the TNG cricket look positively large. I can't imagine it was capable of too much mayhem.

What I found more interesting about that pic, though, was the fact that there's silver grill-work on the back reminiscent of the TOS-phaser. That was a nice touch.

The only question is, was that an actual prop, or is that a fan-mod?

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quote:
Originally posted by Nimpim:
Something I don't get is why no starfleet person ever "waved" the bem when firing, like a garden hose.

Well, it might be kind of wasteful of phaser energy. Worf's rapid suppression-fire of the TNG type-II in "The Vengeance Factor" has a similar effect to the waving. We did see Yar adjust her aim by dragging the beam over to the target in the ep with the Echo Papa drones.

And, of course, when you need to hose a room or corridor in a hurry, there's always wide-beam, but it will be similarly wasteful.

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It's one of my fave designs too.

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Lee
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Would you believe a twelve year-old kid sent me this image? Truly, out of the mouths of babes and sucklings are we delivered. Which actually sounds really dodgy, so let's move on.

I concur with G2K that the trigger can only logically (given the only view we have) be the round circle on top; however, the trigger on the TOS-era Type-I was a small button on the underside, so I'd hesitate to say for certain one way or the other.

There was indeed a Sternbach concept for a TNG riot-gun, I'm uploading it now. . . Here.

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i hope that "riot gun" has some kind of inertial dampening. otherwise, the recoil is gonna make a .700 Holland and Holland double rifle feel like a squirt gun.
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