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Silly newbie! I enhanced that image and it's just the short neck the Nebbie has. It's just in a lot of shade! There are no notches or holes to suggest they modified the model in that area.
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hmm, seems you are right, it is part of the neck, stupid Studio Model makers, they could have at least shoved a launcher port in there with it, grrrr
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Just remember that the Nebula model has gone through a good deal of changes, and it is possible somebody decided to poke a hole in there for a launcher tube. Remember how in TNG they ended up gluing on more tractor emitters and what not to the smaller, but more detailed Enterprise-D when they realized they needed the ship to do something that the original specs apparently wouldn't allow?
Also, as somebody pointed out, torpedoes in Star Trek are not really torpedo weapons, but more like our modern-day missiles. They have the ability to track a target long after they leave the launcher... which makes sense, seeing that they have a range 4,050,000 kilometers (DS9 TM). That's like going to the moon and back more then 5 times if you need to get a feel for the distance. Given how far apart starships are in a battle, the only time your torpedo will fly straight out the launcher in a straight line for the target is if you're right behind it and nobody moves.
A limited firing arc is a moot point when the object being launched can change course and guide itself towards a target. ST:VI does have a memorable scene with a torpedo doing that...
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However, the Leeds was just a relable of the Farragut. And you can see there are no notches or holes in the neck. After the Leeds, the Nebbies were CGI. The CGI model could have had a notch or hole in that area, but most likely the model was made with elements of the Galaxy CGI model rearranged (the Galaxy's torp laucher was further up in the neck and would have been taken out when creating the Nebbie) with only the weapons pod and support strut as new parts.
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Yes but in the Star Trek universe, the Nebula Classes could have recieved an extra foward launcher above the main deflector dish.
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I'm not saying thats not possible. I'm just saying the models don't show any evidence of launchers. That being said, I say the launchers are there. No one bothered to update the models because they probably thought they would never need to fire a torpedo out of there and if they did need to, it probably wasn't going to be a close up shot... which it wasn't.
quote:Also, as somebody pointed out, torpedoes in Star Trek are not really torpedo weapons, but more like our modern-day missiles. They have the ability to track a target long after they leave the launcher... which makes sense, seeing that they have a range 4,050,000 kilometers (DS9 TM). That's like going to the moon and back more then 5 times if you need to get a feel for the distance. Given how far apart starships are in a battle, the only time your torpedo will fly straight out the launcher in a straight line for the target is if you're right behind it and nobody moves.
Which is why I find the idea of slanted or angled -whichever way torpedo launchers to be stupid. Why make the effort to make a launcher like that when you can keep it straight and when it fires a torpedo, the torpedo can move away from the ship or whatever and go find its target.
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Ah, the Revelle-Monogram USS Voyager model has the forward launchers pointed downward unlike the shooting model which has them pointed straight foward. I should know since I corrected the launchers on the plastic model.
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In that picture above... has anyone noticed that the nacelle pylons don't connect horizontally to the 'neck' area... they slightly curve up into the saucer section! A Saucer-placed warpcore?
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It seems to me they curve more *forward* than up, if you understand what I mean. I still think there's a separation plane between the top surfaces of the nacelles and the bottom of whatever cut-in the saucer has.
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