quote:Originally posted by Timo: Yup, the Patriarchy has to be a covert reference to the Kzinti - who are still very actively banned by Paramount...
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There's another one...The Tzenkethi...it's been said by several people with "backdoor" connections to the DS9 crew that that referenece was originally going to be "Kzinti" but that it got nixed at the last possible moment by TPTB. Nevertheless, they continued to assume (among themselves) that the Tzenkethi WERE the Kzinti, and if by some miracle they'd been allowed to use them again we would have SEEN that they WERE (for all intents and purposes) Kzinti.
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Well, "Tzenkethi" is nearly an anagram for "The Kzinti".
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"No matter how many Rigel systems there are, they should have known the word 'Rigel'."
Maybe if they were complete idiots. It was a Klingon who said "Rigel". To assume the Klingons use ancient Arabic names for stars would be really dumb. If you were listening to a Klingon speaking his own language and heard the word "apple" crop up, would you assume he had suddenly thrown an English word in, and was talking about red-skinned tree-fruits? Or would you assume that there happens to be a Klingon word that sounds like "apple" that most likely means something completely different?
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Borrowing giant cats from Niven stories is the worst idea ever. What next, the Enterprise runs into the fleeing Puppetmasters? Someone tries to steal Picard's organs? I know, let's expand our horizons. The Borg assimilate the Moties! And then Ron Perlman can do a double role as the Reman Viceroy and Vincent from Beauty and the Beast who fell through a timewarp with that Time Trax guy who is fighting the temporal cold war against the Cybermen.
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quote:Originally posted by darkwing_duck1: There's another one...The Tzenkethi...it's been said by several people with "backdoor" connections to the DS9 crew that that referenece was originally going to be "Kzinti" but that it got nixed at the last possible moment by TPTB. Nevertheless, they continued to assume (among themselves) that the Tzenkethi WERE the Kzinti, and if by some miracle they'd been allowed to use them again we would have SEEN that they WERE (for all intents and purposes) Kzinti.
I've seen a few people putting forth this notion. I'm interested to hear it may have some basis in 'fact'. Any idea who leaked this bit of info?
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: [QB]Borrowing giant cats from Niven stories is the worst idea ever.[QB]
Blame Niven...he's the one that agreed to it with "The Slaver Weapon" {TOS:TAS) He's also been quoted as saying he thought it worked out pretty well.
No one is saying that we have to have the Puppetmasters, et al just because we have a VERSION of the Kzinti, so that's just a straw man arguement.
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quote:Originally posted by capt ussintrepid: I've seen a few people putting forth this notion. I'm interested to hear it may have some basis in 'fact'. Any idea who leaked this bit of info?
It's been awhile, but I heard it got a passing mention in one of the DS9 behind the scenes books. This whole topic got discussed over at TrekBBS awhile back...I'll see if I can dig up a link.
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Er, I'm well aware of their appearence in the animated show. I'm also well aware that it was the worst idea ever. I don't see the straw man.
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quote:Originally posted by darkwing_duck1: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sol System: [QB] No one is saying that we have to have the Puppetmasters, et al just because we have a VERSION of the Kzinti, so that's just a straw man arguement.
As I recall, in the original story Niven adapted for TAS, didn't SPock replace the puppeteer? Thus,perhaps you could argue that the Vulcans fill that role in general. OK, tenuous argument, but still
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quote:Originally posted by darkwing_duck1: This whole topic got discussed over at TrekBBS awhile back...I'll see if I can dig up a link.
Cheers
Bad news...the archives over there are down for the forseable future ...as soon as I CAN get into them, I'll look for the threads.
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How could they send it to you, if they didn't know your address? And, if they did know your address, wouldn't it end w/ "Finland"? Or did they say "oh, that must be a typo" and scratch it out and write "Iceland"?
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