If you look at the reverse-color photo on the right, the aft end of the lower pylon appears fairly thin, but the front of this pylon is remarkably thicker:
Could the lower pylon actually be about half of a reversed Ambassador neck?? Looks like the right shape, where it melds with the raised detail from the warp nacelle. The neck ribs could potentially be there, but the quality of the photo is not good.
That looks like there's a wide, short neck connecting the saucer to the engineering hull across the entire saucer rim. (Thus, it would be an upside-down U shape.)
None of the pics from the first post show that.
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If you just lose that third nacelle and give it Ambassador styled nacelles it looks really keen. (and we've really never seen anything from the Ambassador's imeadiate time frame that I've seen) Mabye the NIagra and Princton were testbeds for new technology and don'r represent a larger class of ships.....the Niagra may have only two nacelles! One can only hope. (the ST Magazine article on the Niagra was sure no help)
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quote:Originally posted by Bernd: Well, if the aft end was simply blown away, we don't need to assume that the shuttlebay is the same as on the Ambassador. A good reason to assume a longer tail is so that the pylons don't run thorugh the shuttlebay.
But the longer tail *is* the Ambassador's. You've postulated a shorter aft end in your proposed version.
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And just what the hell is people's problem with three nacelles? If they weren't so frickin' huge compared to the rest of the ship, I think the two above + one below layout makes for a nice balanced look.
I attribute it to psychological conditioning brought about by years of listening to Roddenberry's bullshit anti-Franz Joseph propaganda about only having even numbers of nacelles.
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I haven't been fond of most fan concepts of three-nacelled ships, but I do think that the canon ones we've seen on screen look pretty decent. (Oh, and FJ's Federation-class, too. Despite the weirdness of one of the nacelles mounted on the saucer, I do like it.)
The current diagrams we've seen on the Niagra don't do the ship justice, IMO. I remember that Mark R. did a model of the ship a while back -- even though it had to do a little extrapolation, I think it looks great.
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Actually, I am quite fond of the triple nacelled starships when they are arranged the correct way. FJ Federation Class Dreadnaught is one of my favorates as well as the Enterprise from " All Good Things ". The Niagara is another story, the nacelles should be reversed with one on top, preferably the saucer and two on the secondary hull. This would stay consistant with the Federation Class Dreadnought as well as the Enterprise from AGT. It would also be more balanced versuses the way shown on the Niagara.
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quote:Originally posted by Sarvek: Actually, I am quite fond of the triple nacelled starships when they are arranged the correct way. FJ Federation Class Dreadnaught is one of my favorates as well as the Enterprise from " All Good Things ". The Niagara is another story, the nacelles should be reversed with one on top, preferably the saucer and two on the secondary hull. This would stay consistant with the Federation Class Dreadnought as well as the Enterprise from AGT. It would also be more balanced versuses the way shown on the Niagara.
Respectfully, I disagree. I think the spreading out of the nacelles into the planes both above and below the main hull is much better than having all three in one position, above or below.
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