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Yeah, in addition to what I said and the previous message, basically, this could easily have been an alternate version of "Fortunate Son" only with a shorter 'A-plot'...
...they either paralleled each other or totally contrasted each other, off the top of my head, I recall:
talk about how freight industry is threatened by starfleet (moreless).
Starfleets help is ultimately the savior of said freighter.
Nonetheless, despite 'feeling' short...this episode was still pretty good. However, wouldnt you think that after so many years of freight running and the potential threat of 'space pirates' they would eventually spend the extra money to arm their ships better against pirates, as that is, afteral, their only income!
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Believe it or not, the two ships don't look dissimilar, if you take the stance that Harry Mudd's ship was seen only at the rear when viewed on the viewscreen. The shape of the Horizon's cargo pods (when viewed from the rear) make a sort of trapezoidal shape. Mudd's was a bit different, but that could be because of a different type of cargo pod he might have been carrying.
This was taken from the Hyde Park exhibition. Apparently, this design was one of the possible choices for the Y-class Fortunate, which they apparently decided to use later as the Horizon.
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Amazing that the freighter moved like a superiority fighter after being relieved of te cargo pods....I thought that was a bit much despite liking the episode. You'd think Mayweather would have told Captain Archer about the pirates and their potential threat: they did kill three people on that other freighter IIRC.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Amazing that the freighter moved like a superiority fighter after being relieved of te cargo pods....I thought that was a bit much despite liking the episode.
The Horizon is basically a tug, which has over-powered engines, to pull all that mass. Just like an 18-wheeler, which has to struggle to pull a full trailer up a slight grade, they can really haull ass with no trailer.
On the other tentical, the Pirate cruiser wasn't expecting anything like that to happen, othewise, they would have been a little harder to disable.
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quote:Originally posted by TheWoozle: The Horizon is basically a tug, which has over-powered engines, to pull all that mass. Just like an 18-wheeler, which has to struggle to pull a full trailer up a slight grade, they can really haull ass with no trailer.
My neighbour's semi could haul ass with a trailer.
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Long time observer here who rarely posts, but I had to chime in on this episode. Despite any technical/Starfleet procedural flaws, this episode just felt good to me. I wondered if anyone else noticed the copy of The Chicago Mobs Of The Twenties on the bookshelf by Travis's bunk. Someone on another forum I inhabit mentioned it, but my TV resolution wasn't quite clear enough for me to make it out well... This was either a mere tip-of-the-hat nod from behind the scenes, or someone was trying to sneak-force this ship on the audience as "The Horizon" from TOS fame.
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quote: I wondered if anyone else noticed the copy of The Chicago Mobs Of The Twenties on the bookshelf by Travis's bunk. Someone on another forum I inhabit mentioned it, but my TV resolution wasn't quite clear enough for me to make it out well... This was either a mere tip-of-the-hat nod from behind the scenes, or someone was trying to sneak-force this ship on the audience as "The Horizon" from TOS fame
LOL. Nice one I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be THE Horizon, unless it gets destroyed between now and the end of ENT of course.
It seams quite likely that the Earth Cargo Service will be absorbed into Starfleet with the founding of the Federation, so the Horizon will recieve a USS prefix.
Of course it's just conjecture and we'll never really know either way, but still it's an ammusing thought.
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Damn Mayweathers out screwing up the galaxy again....
...however, I dont see the Horizon getting absorbed into Starfleet...I think it would probably just be another...S.S. Horizon or more like the S.S. Vico or S.S. Odin or S.S. Beagle anyway...
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Yeah. I can't at all see the ECA becoming part of Starfleet. Remember, SF is the military. It would be like the Teamsters being absorbed into the Army. (Now there's a scary thought... ) Or Shell Oil tankers becoming part of the Navy...
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Besides, the Horizon from "A Piece of the Action" is the one vessel out of the three early SF ships we know of (the others being the Archon and the Essex) that we have a definite, indisputably canon design for. (Whether you want to *call* it the Daedalus Class or not. )
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Well, that's not entirely true. We have a design for a Starfleet ship called "Horizon". But there's nothing saying it has to be the ship from "A Piece of the Action".
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quote:Originally posted by TheWoozle: The Horizon is basically a tug, which has over-powered engines, to pull all that mass. Just like an 18-wheeler, which has to struggle to pull a full trailer up a slight grade, they can really haull ass with no trailer.
My neighbour's semi could haul ass with a trailer.
In a straight line, sure. Lets see a semi or tug that's half as agile as that little ship was. Mabye all the ship's RCS thrusters are in the forward section and, with the cargo containers it handles like an old Caddie with front wheel drive....
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quote:Originally posted by Kazeite: You know, knowing Archer he already caught those pirates, but let them go with a stern warning.
You know, knowing Archer, those bumpy-headed aliens-of-the-week have already tied him up and given him a good beating 'til he cried like a school girl.
quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: Yeah. I can't at all see the ECA becoming part of Starfleet. Remember, SF is the military. It would be like the Teamsters being absorbed into the Army. (Now there's a scary thought... ) Or Shell Oil tankers becoming part of the Navy...
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...and just where the fuck is Porthos? I think he got smart and ran away after they drowned him in sickbay.
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