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Wow. I only just realised that that's your site.
I love it by the way.
Anyway, perhaps the Scimitar had in fact lost its shields, but was pretending it still had them with some sort of sensor-fooling device. The crew of the Enterprise discovered this when they rammed it, and this is why they could beam after that - beforehand they thought they couldn't. The whole "they haven't got any shields!" bit happened when they pierced what should have been the shield bubble (according to the display it's a bubble, not the hull-tight shields the Enterprise has), during which time we were viewing the Enterprise from the Scimitar's perspective.
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[EDITED FOR TELEVISION] Perhaps the Scimitar's shields are dynamic, like with Voyager's prison cells during feeding time, in "Repentance".
So the Enterprise's saucer penetrated the Scimitar's shields kind of like tearing through a virgin's hymen. The hole doesn't grow bigger than it has to, so the Scimitar's shields were gripping around the Enterprise's saucer, a la labia.
Then the transporters could "send" people through the Enterprise's front hulk. I mean, if the trannies can teleport a person or object within the ship, what's to say they can't put the person 20 meters forward, using the inside transporters? Through the opening in the Scimitar.
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quote:Originally posted by Nim: [EDITED FOR TELEVISION] Perhaps the Scimitar's shields are dynamic, like with Voyager's prison cells during feeding time, in "Repentance".
So the Enterprise's saucer penetrated the Scimitar's shields kind of like tearing through a virgin's hymen. The hole doesn't grow bigger than it has to, so the Scimitar's shields were gripping around the Enterprise's saucer, a la labia.
Then the transporters could "send" people through the Enterprise's front hulk.
If that were the case then:
(a) the shields would be a bit useless, protecting every part of the ship except the bit being attacked
(b) we would surely have seen some form of ship/shield interaction, like sparks.
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I think Occam's razor is needed here: The Enterprise is extremely damaged and a thrid of her saucer has been ripped off: transporters are down shipwide (shuttlebays probably are too) and that means......
The computer is fucked up and Geordi's screen has frozen.
No super regenerative shields for the Scimitar.
No deflowerment jokes needed.
Just a fucked up computer.
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Allright, I'm sorry I said "jizz", jeez. There, fixed it you old wives. :-)
You're right about the sparks. Though the gist of the theory was akin to someone spreading the middle ropes for the boxer to slip through to enter the ring, or...no. Forget it.
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There are no sparks when the E-E rams the Scimitar
Objects hitting shields cause sparks (seen in numerous episodes, and in fact this film)
Therefore,
The Scimitar had no shields when the E-E hit it
Furthermore,
Geordi's screen says that the shields are there
So, there are two options:
1) Geordi's screen was malfunctioning
This would mean it was malfunctioning before the ramming sequence, probably damaged in the fight. However, I don't think we have ever seen damaged systems give completely normal looking yet wrong readings, as we would have here. They normally just break down and don't work at all.
2) The E-E's sensors were being fooled
As I don't like the other option, this is what I chose.
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quote:Originally posted by Nim: Allright, I'm sorry I said "jizz", jeez. There, fixed it you old wives. :-)
Your post wil always be jizz to us.
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It irreparably damaged my fragile prudish innocent psyche, to be sure.
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Of course the Scimitar had no shields at the time of ramming. If she had, they would have glowed blue and the E would have bounced off them.
However, I'd think that both ships still had their SIF's going - or according to Ocuda, the Saucer would have flowed like warm butter when she went to full impulse.
Might the display have been confused, and showing the SIF reading? I doubt if those stop a transport beam.
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Wait a minute, O'Brien transported through the Phoenix's shields during warp... can't that help explain this strange problem?
Besides, the stranger thing in shields would be the Federation spandex version.
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they werent at warp
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