quote:Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge: Wait a minute, O'Brien transported through the Phoenix's shields during warp... can't that help explain this strange problem?
What CaptainMike said. Also note that there was a throwaway line regarding that . . . O'Brien said "glad we're trying this with a Federation ship, it would never work against an alien vessel" or words to that effect.
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quote:Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge: Wait a minute, O'Brien transported through the Phoenix's shields during warp... can't that help explain this strange problem?
What CaptainMike said. Also note that there was a throwaway line regarding that . . . O'Brien said "glad we're trying this with a Federation ship, it would never work against an alien vessel" or words to that effect.
Actually it was more like something to the effect that the shields of a Nebula-class reset their modulation every 5 minutes and that he could beam in during that moment.
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But that means the shield modulation would explain how the Borg could beam onboard the Enterprise-D back in Q Who. Anyway, I really don't know how to explain why the Schimitar had more shields, and a bubble one as oppose to the spandex one the E-E had, and still managed to get rammed with 70% left. What was John Logan on when he worte this and where the hell were the sci/tech advisors?
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Or not. AS Mr. Okuda has stated, each fan must decide for themselves what is canon.
I am ambivalent on the merits of Voyager. I like DS9, TNG, and TOS. As for Enterprise, I think the show works better as an alternate time line as per Braga's recommendation.
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quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: Actually it was more like something to the effect that the shields of a Nebula-class reset their modulation every 5 minutes and that he could beam in during that moment.
Ah . . . well I'll be damned. I was thinking of the script. One of the perils of not having had all the episodes handy, I guess.
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TNG S4 DVD - Disc 3, Ep 4 "The Wounded"
(Circa 37:30): O'Brien: "Sir, let me beam over, try to talk to him. We served together a long time. When you've been through what we have you tend to get inside someone. He might listen." Riker: "He'd never lower his shields and allow you to transport on board." O'Brien: "The Phoenix is using a high-energy sensor system. It cycles every 5.5 minutes. Between cycles there's a window of a fiftieth of a second. Trust me, I can get through." Picard: "Make it so."
Then the script includes the following scene not found in the actual episode, picking up where that leaves off:
O'Brien heads for the Turbolift.
STAR TREK: "The Wounded" - REV. 11/5/90 - ACT FIVE 54.
47A INT. TRANSPORTER ROOM - MINUTES LATER
O'Brien and Geordi at the console.
O'BRIEN
It's good we're trying this with another Federation ship. It would never work with an alien vessel.
GEORDI
I'm not so sure it's going to work this time. Can you get an accurate enough fix on his shield modulation to get through?
O'BRIEN
I think so. The Phoenix should be following standard Starfleet protocols. They have to align their shields at the start of every sweep.
GEORDI
So you'll sync up the beam...
O'BRIEN
And slip right through...
He holds up both hands... slips the fingers of his left hand through the separated fingers of his right.
GEORDI
But if there's any phase error... you could materialize outside the ship... we'd never have a chance to correct.
O'BRIEN
I've been monitoring his sweep patterns... I'm telling you, I can compensate...
GEORDI
And I guess we could increase the pattern buffer cycle to give us a little more margin for error...
O'BRIEN
The current cycle is almost finished, sir... they'll be phase aligning in twenty seconds...
GEORDI
Okay, Chief -- let's do it.
STAR TREK: "The Wounded" - REV. 11/5/90 - ACT FIVE 54A.
47A CONTINUED:
O'Brien goes to the Transporter pad. Geordi keeps his eye on the console.
GEORDI
Stand by... five seconds... here we go... two... one...
He hits the controls, and O'Brien DEMATERIALIZES from the pad.
GEORDI
Good luck, Chief.
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quote:Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge: But that means the shield modulation would explain how the Borg could beam onboard the Enterprise-D back in Q Who.
Well, not necessarily. The Phoenix's "high-energy sensor system" seems like it was supposed to be unusual . . . might even have been why the ship had the one-off AWACS pod to begin with. But yes, in general, modulations and frequencies and nutations (oh my!) are the reason.
quote:Anyway, I really don't know how to explain why the Schimitar had more shields, and a bubble one as oppose to the spandex one the E-E had, and still managed to get rammed with 70% left. What was John Logan on when he worte this and where the hell were the sci/tech advisors?
Back when all I had was a low-res cam-grab of the movie, I'd argued that the oval couldn't have represented the shields . . . in the movie, the Scimitar's shields are just as conformal as the E-E's.
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