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Edit **can someone change the title to more than **3** runabouts docked at DS9** (Andrew)
Looking at the cap from "Visionary" - it seems as if there are at least 4 (I reckon 6 if you include the various angles in other caps) runabouts at DS9. This pic definately shows 4 Runabouts leaving/escaping DS9's destruction.
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I seem to recall mention in the first episode "Emissary" that there were at least three Runabouts sent to DS9 when Sisko took command. I don't see why they couldn't have upped the number at a later date/time. How many pads are there? I'm thinking six, but don't recall for certain. The only pic I can immediately find seems to support this, but isn't the best where a detailed shot is concerned.
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They've never explicitly said there were more than 3 at any one time, (other than the mention of 3 in the series opener). The station itself has 6 elevator landing bay/pads. So at some point they got another Runabout. It wasn't mentioned because a story didn't call for that kind of specific information.
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I recall thinking that one was the Defiant when I first saw the episode, but it doesn't look like it from there.
Some could be runabouts that are dropping off people, rather than runabouts that are actually stationed at the station.
For about the first four series, there were only ever 3 runabouts mentioned by name. When one was destroyed, one replaced it, but there were never any additions. I think about late season 4 though, a new name appeared, implying that there were now at least 4 runabouts.
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If my ship list is correct then the following Runabouts were known to be stationed at DS9 in 2371.
RIO GRANDE, ORINOCO, possibly the VOLGA and the RUBICON. I'm not certain if the Rubicon was assigned before or after that episode and I'm not 100% sure that the Volga was assigned in season three or four. If not the Rubicon then it's possible that the SHENANDOHA was around that early, the registry number seams low enough. The same goes for the nameless (NCC-73918).
So yes, it is possible that there were more than three Runabouts at DS9 in the third season, in fact it could be as many as six! But four or five seams more likely.
The number of pads doesn't even limit the number of runabouts to six, since the bays themselves have space for more than one ship. Four seems a reasonable number though.
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I think it may have to do more with the camera shots/timing rather than the possibility of more than 3 runabouts. I say this becasue I meshed those two different angles together when really there was a interior shot inbetween, so it may possibly be a bit misleading, but the possibility still exists.
Anyway, it was a bitch to do at the time, and even moreso to dissect in retrospect (considering all the times names weren't given to the runabouts shown) but here is what I have about the intros and destructions of the runabouts:
1st Season:
Rio Grande - Introduced in "Emissary"
Yangtzee Kiang - Destroyed in "Battlelines"
Ganges - Introduced in "Emissary"
2nd Season:
Orinoco - Introduced in "The Siege", replaces the Yangtzee Kiang
Ganges - Destroyed "Armageddon Game"
Mekong - Introduced in "Whispers", replaces the Ganges.
3rd Season:
Mekong - Destroyed in "The Die Is Cast"
Rubicon Introduced (but unseen) in "Family Business", replaces the Mekong. [Kira told Sisko that O'Brien wanted him to inspect it. Sisko told Kira he wanted to name it the 'Rubicon'. Kira remarked, "You know at the rate we go through runabouts its a good thing Earth has so many rivers".]
4th Season:
Rubicon - First seen in "Hippocratic Oath" (first canon use of term: "Danube Class")
Orinoco - Destroyed in "Our Man Bashir"
Yukon - Introduced in "Sons of Mogh", replaces the Orinoco (?).
Volga - Introduced in "Body Parts", possible 4th runabout.
Season 5:
Yukon - Destroyed in "By Infernos Light"
Season 6:
Shannondoah - Introduced in "Change of Heart", replacement for Yukon (or unnamed destroyed in "The Ship"), Destroyed (presumably) in "Valiant".
Season 7:
Gander - Destroyed in "Penumbra".
And lets not forget the scores of ships that were seen or destroyed and names were never given.
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Was the ship in Timescape given a name in the script?
One would assume that the worlds 5 largest rivers or the largest rivers on each continent would be used on Runabouts first?
U.S.S. Murry-Darling
The Nile and The Amazon and the Mississippi are are three I'd expect to be early runabouts.
The Zambeze, The Irrawaddi, the Tigris, The Euphrates, The Tibre, the Thames, the Colorado and the Murray-Darling would be a few more. I'd say these before the Gander which is a relatively small river isn't it?
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Given that the Class Ship is USS Danube, it would appear that the river naming-scheme applies to the whole Class, and so some of those large rivers are presumably used by runabouts at different stations and on large ships.
You also have to take into account how good the names sound. If I were Sisko, I'd much rather call a ship USS Rubicon than USS Murray-Darling, purely because it sounds better.
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But if Sisko gets to choose the names, then who's to say the commander of SB 123 wouldn't choose to name her runabouts after Vulcan winds?
Perhaps Sisko was the first customer of the type (which indeed is a novelty item, according to O'Brien in "Paradise"), and thus got to name USS Danube - which, in the end, wasn't delivered to him, or was lost in an offscreen incident. Or then the class was supposed to be named after Strauss walzes, or after M'Wabanga Danube, the famous warlord-microbiologist from Kenya, and Sisko was just clueless.
The likeliest scenario: If users get to name their runabouts, there probably exists a database of available names to prevent 47 craft from being named "USS Hot Rod" simultaneously. And that database might contain the suggestion/outright limitation that Earth river names be used.* Sisko just picked one to go with the factory-painted registry number.
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* No, "USS River Phoenix" cannot be used. Adm. Nechayev already got the dibs for her VIP transport.
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you have to choose from their list of names of the pre-printed decals.. custom ones woulda cost extra
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I'm sure it's a commander's perrogative to name the ships that serve as his auxilliary craft - Picard, for example, indirectly named the Calypso by way of Patrick Stewart. I'm sure however that some admiral would be rather pissed if Sisko went and renamed the Defiant the USS I'm Gonna Kick Dominion Ass With This Thing. There should be an order of authority in these things.
This explains why there would be shuttles with the same name as starships, and how the various Enterprises would always get the coolest names - I'm sure that there MUST be more than one shuttle called Galileo at the same time.
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