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Perhpas the computer's library mentioned something about the Eugenics War being referred to by some as the third World War. Spock didn't know enough about Terran history to realize that there was a later war which was more often called World War III.
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TSN: The library computer aboard the USS Enterprise is not the internet.
Personnally, I feel that the history of Star Trek is as fucked as many other aspects of the four series-the science, the registries, etc. After watching the original many times, I feel that the Federation came into being in the mid-2250's after the Axanar Peace Treaty. In one episode, "Whom Gods Destroy", Kirk spoke of a vision which brought different races together by the people of Axanar. This could be the Federation. Further, Kirk said in "The Mark of Gideon" that the galaxy was at peace. This suggests that before the Treaty of Axanar the galaxy was in a state of war. All this evidence was ignored by the later writers and producers. (And no I don't believe the Federation existed before 2240 if I followed the original's history. There are too many references to Earth this, Earth that.)
However, the history has been revised and many elements of the original history have been minimized or eliminated. I am not sure who did this or why. So, now we have threads of history that don't fit. The issue of World War III and the Eugenics War is one such thread. In the original, these two wars were the same. There can be no overlooking this fact and the fact can't be explained away.
[This message was edited by Trinculo on June 10, 1999.]
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Just something I caught: all rockets are impulse engines if they eject mass for propulsion. The Space Shuttle uses three impulse engines. The term impulse is used to mean that the drive produces thrust as opposed to the contiuum distortion drive.
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The reason why the history of the Federation is skewed is because Roddenberry didn't have all the details worked out until well into TOS, and didn't get a chance to polish his ideas until TNG. There are no "horrible" discontinuties. So Kirk talks about Earth a lot. So does Janeway, and the rest of the crew of Voyager. Earth is the capitol. Do references to UESPA, or Space Command, mean that Starfleet doesn't exist? No.
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The errors in Star Trek would require the presence of several large tomes. Let's return to the topic of the Woden and her class. If I remember correctly, the DY-750 bore some resemblance to the SS Woden.
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Actually, the Eugenics War/WW3 thing can be explained away. I just did. I can easily imagine the ship's databanks reading "In the late twentieth century, the entirety of Terra was plunged into war by a race of genetically engineered 'superhumans'. In places, this war was so destructive that people of the time often referred to it as 'World War III'." Now, if Spock didn't realize at the time that WW3 wasn't the official name, and that there was another WW3 later on, it's perfectly feasible that he would refer to it as the "third World War", through a simple misunderstanding of what he read.
------------------ "I ran into Charlie Fogg. He blacked my eye, and he kicked my dog. My dog turned to me, and he said, 'Let's head back to Tennessee, Jed.'" -The Grateful Dead, "Tennessee Jed"
What I dislike most (apart from hopelessly outdated designs being used in the 2260's) is that there are two concurring designs for early starships: the DY familiy and the Phoenix/Valiant family. It seems that the DY family has been built for centuries, as if warp drive hadn't been invented in the meantime. No need to mention I like the Phoenix and Valiant much more.
BTW: Is there any more information on the Charybdis, except that it was a NASA ship?
TSN: I follow your explanation of the WWIII problem.
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The Charybdis information from the episode "The Royale" is rather sparse. It is essentially a repeat of the information spoken vocally in the episode. There is no class nor picture information on the Charbydis. After the Charbydis, there is another flight-the Jacob. (Star Trek: The Continuing Missions)
TSN, Bernd: There are so many issues involved with the Third World War and the Eugenics War that I decided instead to concentrate on the SS Woden and her class issue.
The issues involved- Technological Chronological Scientific
This matter has been debated here and elsewhere. The conclusion-either you accept the Okudas interpretion of history or you don't. There is no middle ground for pride and ego are involved. And I don't. I feel that you (TSN, Bernd) do accept the history. And so there is no point in continuing this discussion.
[This message was edited by Trinculo on June 10, 1999.]
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