quote:Originally posted by Manticore: Something that I just remembered, doesn't it take !20 minutes to charge up the warp coils from a dead stop? I think that was the time mentioned in "Catwalk." And if it's the same reason as in The Naked Time, wouldn't it send them like four days back in time if they charged the things up any faster?
Maybe the quick-start is why he had to massage the controls and why they where bent out of alignment. I expect that they where at warp for only an hour or so.
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Impulse still has time dilation affects, especially after you get past full impulse .25c, it's noticable at maximum impulse .75c. I don't know if this is sci or sci-fi, but it's what the TNG TM talks about.
I don't remember if .75 was maximum in that was what they would safely use or what it could reach period. However, would T'Pol's ETA be affected by time dilation in some way?
However, in any case... the crew, unless they got IV's hooked up to them, wouldn't survive that period of time.
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And of course, all we get out of the wakeup process was Trip being hungry. Being in a coma STILL leaves you with a number of autonomic functions that have to be taken care of. Even if Phlox was able to surpress their renal functions, for example, I was hoping that everyone as they were waking up would make the can their first destination.
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Er, is this full impulse not being the same as maximum impulse something everyone has always known about, and I've just missed it?
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Concerning the cold start: Considering how long Phlox was poring over those manuals, doesn't it make sense that the engine could've been warming up in the mean time? That would've been the first part I would've read, anyway... "How to start the warp core."
One thing I noticed, is that we've got a timestamp for this episode -- it's said that it's two days after the end of "Harbinger," which was on December 27. So that means that the crew spent New Years' in a coma. Hell, the could've hung out on the edge of the anomaly for two days, then had a big bash on New Years' Eve, and then have Phlox pilot them through at warp the next morning while they're all unconscious and hung over!
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I doubt that New Year's Eve was something they had on their minds as a priority.
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I thought they said they encountered "Harbinger"'s anomaly "several weeks ago" or something like that. Or was that a reference to something else?
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Er, is this full impulse not being the same as maximum impulse something everyone has always known about, and I've just missed it?
Been that way solidly since the TNG TM... but I do recall that there is an episode where they were at full impulse and then there was an order for maximum impulse.
.0625 c is quarter impulse .125 c is half .25 c is full .75 c is maximum
And as I think I said, I'm fairly certain that the engines can exceed .75 c, but it's not recommended.
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Regarding time dilation, we see a running clock during the scene of the doctor in Engineering. I can't tell on the copy I have how fast the thing is running . . . if it were running at normal speed, then the four days is at the ship's frame of reference. If it were running faster, then the clock would be showing the outside frame of reference.
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quote:Originally posted by Manticore: Something that I just remembered, doesn't it take !20 minutes to charge up the warp coils from a dead stop? I think that was the time mentioned in "Catwalk." And if it's the same reason as in The Naked Time, wouldn't it send them like four days back in time if they charged the things up any faster?
Maybe the quick-start is why he had to massage the controls and why they where bent out of alignment. I expect that they where at warp for only an hour or so.
Maybe it also depends on how long the warp engines have been off for?
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Trip might have left them on "standby" just in case.
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