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Sol System
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Having the Defiant show up is a little bit odd. Like, all spacewarps lead to the mirror universe now?

(In my head that was a clever mutation of the more famous cliche, though I suspect it is not, in fact, clever.)

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So interspace not only moves ships around dimensions, but time as well...

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Sol System
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What's the difference?
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the ISS Enterprise was clearly shown to be NCC-1701 in "Mirror, Mirror" i believe....

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Yes it was. They just had reversed labels and stock footage. In fact, if i recall correctly, the model used was the version used for the pilot episode (ya know, the ship had spikes on the bussard collectors).

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So, do we conceed the point to stock footage, or was the ISS Enterprise in pilot configuration? [Big Grin]
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Mikey T
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Like most of the males here would mind T'Pol sleeping with Hoshi...

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Oh, they actually changed the model they used in Mirror, Mirror - I thought they just flipped the direction of the film when they 'crossed over'.

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Actually both. The stock footage was of the pilot version and it was flipped film. The footage was probably made for the pilot. I don't remember if such a shot did make it to the pilot though.

They had actually made two models. The 11-footer was used in both pilots and as the series-version of the ship. So it appeared as three design variations. The other was something like a 2-footer which only appeared as the series-version.

If the USS Defiant does end up being the ISS Enterprise, one could say that over the years, modifications had been made on it so that it coincidentally looks like the MK I or MK II Constitution design later. But it still wouldn't explain the NCC-1701 registry

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Mikey T
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I'd say the Defiant gets destroyed but enough data was downloaded onboard Enterprise to create their own Constitution Classes.

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Sol System
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Shouldn't that put Imperial ship designers one hundred years ahead of their mirror counterparts? (Not that this is a new problem in mirror universe metaphysics.)
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PsyLiam
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I recall two shots of the ISS Enterprise. One was when they crossed over...there was a shot of the Enterprise travelling left to right across the screen that was mixed with one travelling in the opposite direction. Both shots were different from each other (and I recall the Enterprise looking very white and clean in one, as if they were using better than normal cameras).

For the rest of the show, they used the standard "Enterprise orbiting planet coming from the centre of the screen and leaving to the right" shot that was used all the time.

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quote:
Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge:
I'd say the Defiant gets destroyed but enough data was downloaded onboard Enterprise to create their own Constitution Classes.

Interesting parallel. Mirror Archer and Co. steal/aquire the Defiant and then either use it as the Enterprise or copy the Connie and design their own.

100 years later the Mirror O'Brien steals the plans for the Defiant and build their own version.

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For your pleasure: screen captures from TOS "Mirror Mirror"

http://www.trek5.com/caps/tos/39_MM/index.htm

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It's nice to see that Kirk fought against the "mirror" nature of the mirror universe as soon as he got there, as his first order seems to have been to make the ship do a 180 degree spin.

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