quote:Originally posted by Dat: I remember the dialog from "The Valiant" along the lines of:
JAKE: Another ship is approaching! It's the Defiant!
NOG: What!?
a beat
NOG: That's not the Defiant. It's registry is NCC-74210. It's the Valiant.
JAKE: Valiant? Good name for a ship. (and I do believe Jake's line continues after this)
I don't think there was ever mention of "Defiant class" in the episode.
That's correct. The one and only time "Defiant-class" was mentioned in dialogue was in "The Dogs of War", mostly to shut us fans up following four years of dumb "Defiant or Valiant class" debate. Of course, they replaced it with years of dumb "why did they change the number when they renamed the ship?" debate.
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I like the episode where they say the Defiant is 170 meters long and NOT 120 meters long.
it happened in my mind: and all the women were nekked....and double jointed.
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: Double-jointed and triple-breasted??? What the hell is wrong with you guys???
-MMoM
And their jaws could dislocate like a snakes...
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...back on topic, there's the USS Oberth, NCC-602, with a number sufficiently close to the Grissom to suggest the Grissom is intended to be an Oberth-class vessel. The USS Grissom is from the Trek VI screen readouts. Bjo Trimble's book Concordance gives us those screen goodies.
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...Then again, the list is not illustrated. And mere registry proximity isn't much of a guide, when e.g. one inspects that same list for 1800-range vessels and tries to tell the Mirandas apart from the Constitutions.
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Mirandas have that pod-thingie and Constitutions have that blue glowy part.
Dont laugh- it's more useful inormation than anything in the Starship Spotter.
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I wouldn't put so much more credence in dialogue than in visual evidence. The mere fact that there is a prototype ship Defiant NX-74205 of a previously unseen design whose production was continued with NCC ships that look just like the Defiant clearly indicates that there is indeed a Defiant class. This evidence is just as good as an occasional mention of "Defiant class" by a crew member who knows only the Defiant and may not be aware of the (unlikely) fact that the class was officially named for a later ship closer to the series version.
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