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Think two fuselages with a wing between. The US did it with the twin mustang as well.

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Wow! It feels as if Dr Frankenstein was let loose in the USAF...

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What's the advantage of having two fuselages connected like that, and isn't it disconcerting for the pilot to be outside the central axis of the plane?

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Jason Abbadon
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Maybe it's a trainer?
The second pilot might be snapping ariel recon pics...or it's just for kicks.

HOw does this apply to a Trek design though?
I've seen something like it in the Bradbury design, though I really despise that....thing

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WizArtist II
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well, imagine an E-D with the pylons going both up AND down for four nacelles and a neck on the 'bottom' connected to a second saucer. Now THAT would be the Uber-Frankenstein BS model.

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Jason Abbadon
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Too weird- why have two saucers when one giant one works sooo much better?

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How 'bout a Connie with another secondary hull mirrored over the saucer? It would serve pretty much m=no purpose, but would look quite interesting.

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Jason Abbadon
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I've seen something like that- picture a FJ Dreadnaught but instead of a upper nacelle a "neck" leads upward to a modified Dreadnaught's secondary hull- shuttlebays are at both ends for a "through deck hangar".
I guess it carries fighters or something.

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It's not "It's a Wrap" this time, but Profiles in History is doing an e-bay auction now. After you get through the first several pages of old photos, you start to come across a lot of sci-fi items. They've even got stuff all the way back to Forbidden Planet!

Here's a selection of some of the Trek stuff:
TAS - cel of Sulu
Saavik's ears from STIII
Shatner's STIII phaser
TNG transporter control panel
Chekov's photon collector from STIV
Kronos city miniature

And some other stuff of interest:
TIE Fighter from ANH
The Holy Grail! (literally)
Hoverboard from BTTF2
Flying Winnebago, diner, & other ships from Spaceballs

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Sean
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That stuff is EXTREMELY expensive. Some say that they are verified to be the actual thing, but if I were to pay that much, I'd need definite proof of authenticity. A lot of the "its A Wrap" stuff seems of uncertain origin.

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Answering the earlier question about the Twin Mustang, the idea was to have a very long range recon and escort fighter - two pilots would allow one to sleep for parts of the flight, and an extra pair of eyes would be invaluable in combat. Eventually though, the Mustangs would be refitted for night fighting, with the guy on the right being the radar operator.

Of course, none of this is relevant to any sci-fi example except possibly the Cloud City fighters. [Smile]

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Interesting insight. Definitely not a real-world excuse to build any twin saucered Galaxy classes, thankfully. [Smile]

Nice auction items. I would've thought the Klingon planet skyline in Enterprise was CGI, rather than a nicely detailed physical model. That's a nice surprise.

Also pretty cool that they've actually got photos of each prop in use, rather than It's a Wrap's vague blurbs that are usually along the lines of "it is believed this slightly damaged crew uniform button was used in the production of TNG, DS9, or Voyager, though this is unconfirmed."

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Sean
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I didn't know they used physical models either. Matte background shots maybe, but not actual models. Did they use physical models for any ship shots?

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Jason Abbadon
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Even shows like SG1 that mostly use CGI occasionally go with physical models for some things (the Abyidos pyrimaid blowing up for example).
Models still have a unique and more convincing look for some subjects.

A lot of highend CGI work uses physical models as a reference point- as with the Star Wars prequels.
Those used more physical models than the first three films despite all the computer work.

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I asked because even though the CGI in Enterprise was very nice looking, you could tell that it was CGI, and would probably notice the difference between that and a physical model, especially if they appeared in the same scene together. I know that there weren't any physical models of the NX-01 that appeared on screen, did they even bother to build one, other than a reference model?

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