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Only EaF is from season 1, the others are S5 (TIL) and S3 (SotF).

There are not much Starfleet ships in those episodes, just a few seconds of the Hood in EaF and the computer screen mentioning the USS Intrepid. Ok, and of course the USS Enterprise...

The release date for Germany was given with 11/15/12, maybe we get soon a first picutre of the remastered Enterprise - and the answer if they have redone the F/X or reused the existing 35mm film material.

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IF they were smart they'd crowd-source this. Think of the power of harvesting the geek-verse's obsession with updated VFX.

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There's about a dozen reasons why that'd never happen. Legal and union reasons aside, just trying meeting any kind of meaningful deadlines would be like herding cats and quality control would be and utter nightmare in and of itself. No studio in it's right mind would ever throw money away like that.

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The released cover art features the USS Enterprise - in my opinium not a CG one. But this does not prove anything...
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You've heard the rumors, and now StarTrek.com can officially confirm it: Star Trek: The Next Generation will be released in high-definition Blu-ray, starting in January with a sampler of several popular episodes, followed by a season-one set to be released later on in 2012, and subsequent seasons beaming down after that. Each of the 178 episodes spanning The Next Generation's seven seasons will be transferred to true high-definition 1080p for release in the Blu-ray format and, eventually, for runs on television and digital platforms in the U.S. and across the world. Star Trek: The Next Generation will, as fans know, be celebrating its 25th anniversary in 2012.

“Fans have been clamoring for a high-definition release of Star Trek: The Next Generation," Ken Ross, Executive Vice President and General Manager of CBS Entertainment, said in a statement. “Transferring the series to high-definition presented difficult technical challenges, but our team has come up with a process to create true 1080p HD masters with true HD visual effects. We can’t wait to show fans how pristine the series looks and sounds with our upcoming Blu-ray releases.”

CBS is, in fact, returning to the original film negatives, a mother lode of material encompassing 25,000-plus reels of footage, and editing the episodes together precisely as they were when they originally aired between 1987 and 1994. Visual effects will not be upconverted from videotape, but instead will be recompositioned. The freshly cut film will ultimately be transferred to high definition with 7.1 DTS Master Audio. And all of the work is being done in conjunction with respected, longtime Star Trek figures Denise and Michael Okuda, who are on board as consultants.

As for that sampler, it will be called Star Trek: The Next Generation -- The Next Level. CBS Home Entertainment has set a January 31, 2012, release date for the single disc, which will include the feature-length version of the series pilot, "Encounter at Farpoint," as well the fan-favorite episodes "Sins of the Father" and "The Inner Light," the former from season three and the latter from season five. The Next Level will sell for the suggested retail price of $21.99.

Keep an eye on StarTrek.com for additional news about upcoming Blu-ray releases of Star Trek: The Next Generation.

In the meantime, which Star Trek: The Next Generation episode are you looking forward to watch on Blu-ray?


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But nothing specificly about making new effects- which is all I'd care about, honestly.
if it's just changing out phaser shots in an exact frame by frame recreation, I'll pass...they could at lest spped up some of the shots so they are not so laughable that actors can casually step out of the way of incoming fire.

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I for one am really relieved it sounds like they're going to recomposit the original FX from the original elements and not replace them with CGI. I simply cannot abide the insertion of modern CGI into older works. The revisionism of the "remastered" TOS project made me cringe...at least the original versions are also on the blu-rays of those.

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You sir are MAD! Mad, I say to prefer the non-updated TOS to the new versions.
Does the Baker Act cover sci fi preferences? If it does, we'll get you the help you need.
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I was always bothered by that shot in "Best of Both Worlds", when Riker and Data (?) take a shuttle over to the Borg Cube and you see the Enterprise get passed by through the shuttle window, in very choppy slo-mo frames, while the rest of the image is normal framerate. I held out hope they'd update it and other mixed-composition shots like it, but I guess that won't happen now.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
I for one am really relieved it sounds like they're going to recomposit the original FX from the original elements and not replace them with CGI. I simply cannot abide the insertion of modern CGI into older works.

Yeah, I'm so looking forward to seeing the reused TMP stock footage of the Klingon battlecruiser in "Heart of Glory," or the reused TSFS stock footage of Spacedock in "11001001," only now in high-def [Roll Eyes]

I'm very disappointed with this. Yeah, it would cost them a lot more the update all the VFX with CGI, but if it's just going to be the same stuff that I've seen before, they just lost a customer. I'll just wait until someone else who has bought them posts screencaps of Wolf 359 and the Qualor II surplus depot (the only things I'm interested in seeing in high-def).

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That makes two of us. How very half-assed.
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Ugh. Since when did updated FX become a plus? Have y'all learned nothing from what Lucas has done to his films? You don't go back and alter iconic pop cultural artifacts like ST and SW decades after the fact, 'tis bad. The ONLY goal of remastering something in higher definition should be just that: to obtain a higher-resolution transfer and possibly to repair damage or defects that have occurred. The idea should be to preserve and archive the original material, not to update or recreate it. It is what it is, you're not going to improve it by second-guessing in hindsight. And CGI will ALWAYS age poorly compared to practical effects. ALL. WAYS. Keep it away.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
Ugh. Since when did updated FX become a plus? Have y'all learned nothing from what Lucas has done to his films? You don't go back and alter iconic pop cultural artifacts like ST and SW decades after the fact, 'tis bad. The ONLY goal of remastering something in higher definition should be just that: to obtain a higher-resolution transfer and possibly to repair damage or defects that have occurred. The idea should be to preserve and archive the original material, not to update or recreate it. It is what it is, you're not going to improve it by second-guessing in hindsight. And CGI will ALWAYS age poorly compared to practical effects. ALL. WAYS. Keep it away.

I would say that TOS-R was a great success. There is more detail and the ships and effects just look better.
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And for everyone complaining -- here is a novel idea, just keep the non-remastered DVDs! They are better quality than the original airing and paramount isn't making out give them back. There yours forever. No one is 'ruining' anything.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
Ugh. Since when did updated FX become a plus? Have y'all learned nothing from what Lucas has done to his films? You don't go back and alter iconic pop cultural artifacts like ST and SW decades after the fact, 'tis bad. The ONLY goal of remastering something in higher definition should be just that: to obtain a higher-resolution transfer and possibly to repair damage or defects that have occurred. The idea should be to preserve and archive the original material, not to update or recreate it. It is what it is, you're not going to improve it by second-guessing in hindsight. And CGI will ALWAYS age poorly compared to practical effects. ALL. WAYS. Keep it away.

I'm sorry dude, but comparing Lucas's self-deluded compulsiveness about constantly changing things in the SW movies, and the VFX changes done for TOS, is like comparing apples and oranges.

First of all, Lucas is, quite simply put, insane. He's an "artiste" (yes, I'm using that term facetiously) who will never be completely satisfied with his own creation and would rather change the fuck out of it than to leave it alone and work on new stuff, even though everyone else on earth was fine with the original product. But be that as it may, it's entirely Lucas the man making these changes. Not 20th Century Fox, not the producers of the films, not anyone else but him.

Now compare that to CBS's TOS-R for high-definition BluRay release. While you are correct that they needed to obtain a higher-resolution transfer and possibly to repair damage or defects that have occurred, the fact of the matter is that the '60's effects would just not hold up to an HD release. And quite frankly, almost all of the changes they made were a) for the better, b) kept to the spirit of the original, and c) would not be overly noticed by anyone who's not as anal-retentive as your typical Star Trek fan. But these changes weren't done because of the obsessive-compulsiveness of Gene Roddenberry (since he is, of course, dead, whether he was OCD or not). They were done to satisfy a production mandate.

And on the subject of CGI not aging well: Sorry again, but that's out of all of our hands (and I completely disagree with that anyway...if anything CGI is just going to get better, not worse). No effects houses are doing motion control any longer because CGI is easier, more efficient, and cheaper while still looking realistic and better than any model/matte painting/etc. ever could. Unless you're talking about stuff like "The Last Starfighter" (1984!) And all I have to say about that is, compare that movie to the new Planet of the Apes film, and you'll see what I mean.

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