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If nobody minds, I decided to give a go at doing a SWDAO on the USS Farragut. By the way, there are possible spoilers for Generations, Nor the Battle to the Strong, and Chrysalis (hey, just covering my bases).
At the end of Star Trek: Generations, three starships arrive at Veridian III to rescue the Enterprise-D survivors. One of them is the Nebula-class USS Farragut (NCC-60597). This establishes that the Farragut was a Nebula-class starship.
The next time the Farragut is mentioned is in the Deep Space Nine episode "Nor the Battle to the Strong." Here, it is reported that the Farragut was destroyed by the Klingons at Ajilon Prime.
Now here's the problem. The Farragut is mentioned in another Deep Space Nine episode: "Chrysalis." At the establishing shot, there is an Excelsior-class starship docked at Deep Space Nine. Some people believe that the Excelsior seen in this episode is the Farragut. If this is the case, then either Starfleet is still constructing Excelsiors or Starfleet pulled out an old Excelsior and renamed her Farragut. Other people believe that the Farragut was not seen in the episode. She simply delivered the Jack Pack and left on a mission only to return later to pick them up.
Now, if the Farragut is Excelsior class now, this means that either Starfleet is still constructing Excelsiors (which have served Starfleet for 80 years) or Starfleet plucked an old Excelsior and renamed it Farragut (but what is the reason for this?). But if the Farragut was not really the ship seen docked at Deep Space 9, why did the camera hang onto that Excelsior? That shot implies that the Farragut is Excelsior. Truth is, it was never mentioned what class the Farragut is now.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, get to criticizing.
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You won't get a peep out of me *peep* Whoops
But seriously, I accept this Excelsior-class Farragut, although I have no idea if they built a new one or renamed an old one, which, to me, doesn't make sense.
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I firmly believe this is a case of stock footage fever. I find it difficult that there would be an Excelsior class Farragut for obvious reasons. I know the Jack pack arrived aboard the Farragut, but I don't remember for sure if they were supposed to be leaving on the Farragut. If they left on the Farragut then the Excelsior class ship wasn't the Farragut because it was still docked at DS9 after the pack had left. Gotta go back and check that one out.
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I don't know how closely episode novelizations are to the actual scripts but the novel for WYLB mentions the Farragut as being the flagship for Admiral Ross during the final battle with the Dominion. I don't think Ross would use an old Excelsior for his flagship but I guess you never know.
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Was the Excelsior the only ship at DS9 at the beginning of "Chrysalis"? If there was a Yeager or something flying around in the background, it could be that...
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Or if there was a defiant-class starship docked at DS9, that could be the farragut, and the USS Definat could have been docked at the toehr side.
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I didn't see the episode, but for now I accept the Farragut as Excelsior class. I suppose we'll have to wait for the new Encyclopedia to come out in the Fall to be sure.
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It's all too pat. I don't think that ship was meant to be the Farragut, and the reasoning to make it so is almost as ludicrous as the question asked by some newbie once - "what is the name and registry of the Nebula seen in the original DS9 credits?" It was just stock footage establishing the scene. Next someone will be asking whether those people you always see in the gardens at Starfleet Academy have to walk along that path at the same time every day, and if it's some sort of ritual or something. . .
Has anyone considered that the Farragut might not have been completely destroyed? Voyager was 'destroyed' after all. As soon as the report came in, Sisko was out the door because he knew that his son was in a warzone and the only heavy ship support might now be gone. He wasn't going to wait for the confirmation. . .
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The First One The footage of the Nebula Class starship in the opening credits is new to the episode "The Way of the Warrior". I agree that after that episode the footage became stock. The only episodes before "The Way of the Warrior" to show a Nebula Class starship docked at DS9 ("Second Sight", "Explorers") show the ship at the lower three pylons.
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As far a the novelization goes I have a hard time believing the Admiral would be on a Nebula class at all. Seems to me, he'd be on a Galaxy. Possibly the one seen firing phasers while at a dead stop.
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I thought that the Farragut was mentioned in the "Statistical Probabilities" ep of the Jack Pack, and that an Intrepid class was seen scooting by.
But, back to the subject, doesn't the first encylopedia list the Farragut as a Nebula class?
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The 1st Encyclopedia doesn't list the Nebula Class Farragut. To my knowledge, it only lists the Constitution class Farragut. It was published before Generations was released.
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I think I was thinking of Endeavour. I remember looking one of them up and seeing it was Nebula. Oh well. I do remember it being destroyed in "Nor the Battle to the Strong..."
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