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I recently noticed while rewatching "The Way Of The Warrior, Part 2", that while under attack, jadzia reports damage on decks 2,3, and 5. This is contradictiry to the DS9TM (I know, I know, its full of mistakes) which states the Defiant has only 4 decks. Thoughts?
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The Okudagram is the most prominent evidence, while a dialogue can rather be ignored.
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Jim Phelps
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Well, we've seen another reference to a Deck 5 when Sisko takes a turbolift in that Iconian portal episode. Unlike the Defiant, which is constantly undergoing upgrades, the MSD never changes; hence maybe we could assume that the engineers maintain the well-known arrangement of systems out of habit, especially since this is only a systems status display rather than a detailed graphic map.
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Well, to change Bernd's words around: "The dialogue is the most prominent evidence, while an Okudagram can rather be ignored." :-)
IMO, the MSD is not accurate. We already know that, on other MSDs, appearances don't necessarily mean anything. They aren't cut on the centerline, turboshafts are extremely simplified, Voyager's nacelles float freely in space, etc. I think deck 5 is unimportant enough to the engineers that they removed it from the MSD. I also think the space between the decks is much higher than average. This was left out, too. The engineers do this so that each deck looks larger, and they don't have to try to cram stuff in.
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It the Uncertainty Princible and the theory that the Observer directly influences the Observed. In that case, the Defiant normally has just four decks, except in cases where damage is observed on deck five and a computer command to deliver the turbolift has been executed to deck five, whereupon deck five exists.
Jim Phelps
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I mean, Sisko did say "Deck 5". If he doesn't know all the decks of the Defiant, turbolift should warn him that the deck doesn't exist rather than merely assuming he means Deck 4. Is Dax' readout in error? Likely not. We stride down to the Engineering and ask someone where Deck 5 is on the display, and we would probably be told that it's the little crawlspace below Deck 4, which we can open up by removing the floor of Deck 4 and walk into.
Boris
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*likes Cargile's theory about Schroedinger's Defiant*
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Deck five is full-size, there's just hardly anything there, so they don't show it on the MSD.
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