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AndrewR
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Well I think DS9's time travel eps are the best - you can't beat "Past Tense", "Visionary", or "Children of Time" - they ALL have an immense underlying theme - that TNG and Voy time eps don't

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Wes
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The First One, thats a good one!! An event triggering a cause! I love it!!!

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Elim Garak
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Er... need I mention that "The Visitor" is a highly thematic DS9 time travel episode?

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Michael Dracon
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What about the TNG episode 'Cause and Effect'? Is that time traveling or a time-loop??

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Elim Garak
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A "causality loop" -- or so Brannon Braga told us in the episode.

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Oh man, you guys are FREAKIN' me out.. hehe. Time travel is really pointless to try and analyze, since it's all just theory anyway.

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Wes
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Time Travel is a theoy, but in the Star Trek universe its been proven possible. Here's another one: Let's say you go though a wormwhole, but by doing so, the other end, which has a temproal displacement if minus 5 seconds and is about a foot to the left of the original one, knocks you away from enterning it in the first place, what happens then? I love that one.

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Wes
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"Cause and Effect" was actually a time loop, the events happened over and over untill they change it and knocked them selfs out. A paradox did not form. It would form if they sent the message BACK in time. If they knocked themeself out because of the message, but as a result, they never sent the message. Where did the message orignate.

I think my brain is getting full... to ... many... paradoxes...
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Wes
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Bernd, How is "Assignment Earth" inconsistent? I might be thinking about a diffrent episode, but isn't this the one where they interupt a NASA launch? Where's the Paradox in this episode?

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Last week / Now / Next Thursday, I will post/ posted / am posting an exclamation of how much I love / will love / loved temporal paradoxes.

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I look forward to / am looking / have read your exclamation First of Two.

lol.

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Who was that replying too?

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Oh.... im gonna be glad / am glad / was glad that my topic made 2 pages!...

If I go back in time and stop myself from going back in time, the universe implodes. Ouch.

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Janeway: "Dimissed"
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Janeway: "That's Starfleet for get out"

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Cause and Effect: There is a bit of a paradox, since the loop was broken because of the information "3" that Data has stored/stores/will store from the future fate of the Enterprise.

Assignment Earth: The episode itself is consistent, while it is inconsistent that here predestination applies, while other episodes (e.g. "The City on the Edge of Forever") change history several times.

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