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In this VOY episode, we get a nice history lesson about Ares 4, a Mars mission from NASA in 3032 (I think). Some facts: -Ares 4 has got 3rd generation ion-propulsion -Emergency ships came a few weeks after the Ares disappeared (either they got from Earth to Mars in that time, or they had another ship in the vicinity) -Voyager is equipped with Class 2 shuttles -Seven downloaded over 60 teraquad of information from the Ares, on a single tricorder!
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I could be wrong as i have not seen the episode but the year 3032? Isn�t Voyager set in the 2370's? Oh i didn't see that last message before I posted this one so just pretend its not here
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We also know the Ares IV was over Mars in October 2032, since they were talking about the October Classic, The World Series
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She didn't HAVE to download it into her tricorder. She could have had an uplink to the Flyer going, so the data went straight there. Of course, we know that a quad can't be that much now, since by 2032, our data storage capacity for a ship that size will probably be in the low petabytes.
I take that back. That'd just take two or three thousand credit-card sized devices NOW. You could fit that in a ship that size, easily.
Any guesses as to what LIDAR stands for?
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Regarding the data storage capacity of Ares IV, remember that it wouldn't have Intel Inside. Instead, it would be built on those futuristic processors pirate-copied by Henry Starling, and on hardware designed to support these processors. So any figures for data storage capability would only have to be consistent with "Future's End", not with the real world.
LIDAR is currently used for a variety of devices, from simple rangefinders (like the one the shuttle used for docking with Mir) to high-resolution imaging devices that can spot power lines for low-flying helicopters. Sounds like a plausible piece of technobabble for the Ares ship. I'm less convinced about the ion engines - real-world ones would be low-thrust, high-endurance devices and unlikely to allow a rescue mission from Earth in a mere week.
..And also unlikely to justify the "Space Seed" idea that advances in propulsion at this rough era had made cryosleep unnecessary. Never mind what Earth was doing with cryosleep in the 2030s, it apparently either hadn't made the significant propulsion upgrade yet (if the ion engines are like the things we think they would be) or were indeed using super-duper engines (in which case calling them ion engines is bad technobabble - a nonsense word like "phion engine" would be better).
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There is a species of ion propulsion that's a bit speedier than that of the DS1 probe. I was reading about it at Scientific American's site, so I'll see if I can dig up the article. Anyway, they're apparently powerful enough to serve as reaction thrusters on satellites.
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*waiting for someone to make a typo and turn it into the "Arse 4"*
Anyway... Why would "Future's End" have any bearing on "One Small Step"? They aren't in that timeline. The timeline of OSS would be the normal Trek one, which was restored at the end of FE. As far as anything but FE is concerned, Henry Starling was never anything more than a hippie, who might have ended up doing some computer work later on. But the whole Chronowerx thing never happened (anymore), since the timeline was restored. The only thing that stayed around was the Holodoc's mobile emitter, since the Voyager wasn't restored to its original condition along w/ the timeline.
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But was the time line restored? I thought that the events in "Futures End" still happened. Because if you remember the Captain of the time ship said (in a latter episode) that he spent some time in the 20th century and that he needed therapy when he left. Which he blamed the crew of Voyager for. If the events of FE never happened how did he spend time in the 20th century?
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If this is yet another one of those Time Travel eps, I have basically given up all hope for Voyager. Too many screws with the timeline, and though they TRY to explain it, it brings up more questions. I've given up trying to put it all together.......
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Nope, I'm 99% sure the timeline wasn't restored. Remember Janeway saying something about "this is all part of our history!" Besides, that the whole episode as a predestination paradoxe. The explosion causes Voy and the Timeship to go in the past, Starling steals the timeship and uses it to go in the future, causing the explosion in the first place.
Except, since where in Voyager, Janeway conveniently avoids the paradox in the end by blasting Starling, making our predestination paradox an almost-predestination one.
Makes sense? No? Don't worry, let's explain it the old-fashioned Voyager way by all repeating : "It gives me a headache" or "It's too complicated for you to understand".
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