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Montgomery
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PsiPhi's Books

Er....
What's this?

Some freakish product of a union betwixt Constitution and fruit-bat?

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A very disturbing image

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The359
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Why in the world are the Nacelles and Neck different colors then the rest of the ship? And, I hope that isn't what they want the Challenger class to look like....

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Dane Simri
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If you read PsiPhi's spoiler for the book, it would appear that the cover art IS INDEED the USS Challenger. To which I can say only one word: Ick.

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AndrewR
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Well, its only the Challenger in the book mutant world.

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What's the point to attaching the nacelles that way? Gee, let's see how many variants we can come up with by sticking nacelles on every possible location we can think of.

And y'all thought the FF Niagara was ugly.

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I think I know the reason for the discrepancy in colors. The saucer and secondary hull are obviously a regular Constitution refit. Both the neck and the nacelles are different, though. Perhaps the original artwork depicted a Constitution II, and then the neck was changed and the new nacelles added.

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TSN
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Well, since it's mostly just a C-II, it wouldn't be undigestibly horrible if it didn't have those funky forked pylons. And, of course, if the color scheme were consistent.

As for its being the Challenger class, we know it isn't, since that was made of Galaxy parts. This would have to be the USS Challenger, NCC-2032. At least, it had better be the 2032, or somebody's got a problem...

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Timo
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$$$$$$(yet another impractical spoiler warning)

The beastie sure ain't related to the Challenger class ships of the TNG era. I'm not even sure it would be NCC-2032, considering the timeline of the books. NCC-2032 is from the time of STVI, in 2293, while the books take place in...

$$$$$$(Spoilers for New Earth)$$$$$$$

...take place in the aftermath of ST:TMP. The Challenger is a ship sent to relieve the Enterprise from guarding a newly established frontier colony (which is what this six-book series is all about), but is blown to bits. Scotty patches the poor thing together the best he can, and the results are less than beauteous...

I'm not sure if I'm eager to see Diane Carey do a comedy - but I think there is at least potential here. And the entire New Earth series sounds *extremely* promising, with top-notch writers and nifty concepts. Not to forget superb cover art! (Although I don't like the idea that travel pods have atmospheric capabilities..)

In any case, NCC-2032 was probably built as replacement for the poor bastard that gets destroyed and rebuilt in this book. I guess the 2032 was an Excelsior class ship or something.

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Mikey T
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Looks like Scotty was drinking on the job again...

Anyway, 2032 seems to be a familliar Excelsior Class registry I've seen in DS9. That or is it the registry of that Excelsior in the Utopia Planitia Fleetyards scene from "Relativity?"

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Bernd
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Whoever painted this freak ship obviously based it on an AMT model. Notice the too small sensor dome?

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Timo
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Should we perhaps accept that sensor dome configuration as an existing variant of the standard model? It's bound to pop up in many places (it already has in the hastily assembled Constitution models seen in a couple of TNG episodes!)...

There's no fanfic Constitution by the name Challenger, now is there? Let's see what Carey decides to tell us about this ship. Hopefully she's finally off FASA.

In fact, I don't remember any prominent fanfic starship named Challenger from the TOS movie era. Sounds like a perfectly okay name for a Constitution (as would Independence and Ranger, which also seem to be missing from SotSF and related works). One could say there were more Constitutions than SotSF tells us, or that the ones that weren't completed by the time that book went to press (2291) were actually renamed during final construction. Whatever works best - from what I've seen so far, I do want to fit "New Earth" to the continuity of cool-enough-to-be-canon Trek.

Timo Saloniemi


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Aban Rune
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The idea that the ship was patched together explains it a little bit. Now while I hate the design (obviously) the painting is actually pretty good. Better than alot of the one's I've seen anyway...

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I think it looks weird....but kind of interesting....

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