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Bernd
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Here is the image of the four-nacelled Excelsior study model Mike Okuda was talking about. Thanks to Timo for negotiating with Mike! We have an agreement with Mike. Please *don't use* this image on websites. We might make a nice schematic of it, though :-D
http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/articles/wolf359.htm (scroll down for description)
http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/articles/wolf359/excelsior-4nacelles.jpg
*** Courtesy of Pocket Books, (c) Paramount ***

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Hobbes
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Is it just me or is the download incredibly slow?

After waiting about 10 minutes and only getting a little bit of the image I closed the window. You might want to check what's up with your server Bernd.

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Hm... I think we'll just need to ignore that little "USS EXCELSIOR NCC-2000", eh? *L*

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Is that what it says on it?
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Black Knight
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I do believe Bernd's server is going to crap. Half the time I try to go to his site in the afternoon, it won't even load.

Back to topic, that ship looks really cool! Though, I don't think is seys NCC-2000. That model is still intact as far as I know.
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The359
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Imagine the direction Federation ship design may have gone if this model were actually used. I think I can already make out some of the parts of the ship. Below that giant bubble (looks almost like a secondary bridge) there is a large opening, possibly the shuttlebay. The ship would probably have been smaller then the Excelsior we know: Look at the size of the bridge. Mabybe if they shortened that "neck", this ship might actually look pretty kewl.

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Black Knight
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That's not an Excelsior primary hull. It looks more similar to a Constitution II class. It almost looks like a predecessor to the Prometheus Class.

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Well, no matter what anyone thinks the ship looks like, I for one am just happy that our persistence is starting to pay off, first with the Springfield class and now with this model. Hopefully Okuda will present us with even more pics in the near future so we don't have to wait a year for his book.

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Yeah, can anyone make out the registry number or even the name?

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Im pretty sure its Says USS Excelsior NCC-2000 , Great Job on getting this pic Bernd & Timo , Well in my opinion the design isnt really that good ... Down right ugly. I mean Those modeling guys must have blown their budget pretty quick to peice together a ship with coffee cups... Oh Wait... That Coffee Cup isnt part of the design is it? :p

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Okuda sez the registry is the good old 2000, but the name on this model originally (as finished by the boys at ILM) read "USS Alka-selsior"...

Since Mike said "originally", the name might have been altered later on. In any case, Bernd has convincingly argued that this was probably one of the first Excelsior study models to be built, since it uses the pre-existing Constitution-refit saucer and not the more customized designs seen on the other two known study models. The model with the lenticular hull and traditional secondary hull apparently is the final version before the "production model", while the flat variant might come in between. Interestingly, the four-naceller and the flat ship have the correct saucertop detail while the saucertop of the lenticular-hull ship seems smooth. So the final design really is the best of both worlds...

No, I don't think the coffee cup is an integral part of the ship design (unless it's a tanker of some sort) . But note that nor are the dark diagonal lines on the saucer - that's just the metal wire used to hang the model from the Art Dept office ceiling. This sort of makes the saucer look confusingly like the Miranda class one in the bow-view photo...

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colin
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The design is interesting.
And this ship's design is canonical for the brief appearances in both episodes.

There appears to be three primary families of starships in Star Fleet, that are at least known: the Galaxy, the Constitution, and the Excelsior.

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Michael Dracon
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Very nice design. Needs to be somewhat shorter in the secondary hull for my taste. But it makes a good canon ship, unlike the Freedom and Niagara Class...

The model reminds me of THIS fan-made model.

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Bernd
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I think the name is "Excelsior", but I'm not sure if that is better than "Alka-selsior".

The server seems to have some difficulties lately, maybe the university is not used to so much traffic

I'm probably moving to a professional provider soon.

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Whats the split on the saucer, or is it string for hanging it from the ceiling?

Nice model


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