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Fabrux
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If that is the Frederickson, then isn't the name just a tad too short?

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Michael Dracon
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It's from the Relativity scene alright, the ships from 'A Time To Stand' are more greyish, this one is brown. I'm downloading another scan now, but it's a BMP so it'll take a while.

Done! Here is the JPG version:
Utopia Planitia

Notice that the white dots are the same?

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Alpha Centauri
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Yes, this is the pic I used to identify the registry. I magnified the portion with the rego by a factor of (I believe) 4, ran some enhancement filters over it (don't know exactly which ones), and identified it as 4301. No matter how you guys stay sticked to the 4201, I keep on saying it's 4301. By the way, I also identified 'USS', but the name remains a blur. It's not Frederickson, anyway (which has NCC-42111).
I still have the enhanced capture, I will send it per e-mail to a friend of mine and ask if he can put it on his URL. That'll probably take a few days. I'm unable to do it myself, anyway.


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Fabrux
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Move along, nothing to see here...

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Hey Timo, the Ships of the Line calendar features a very similar panorama, but the mysterious Excelsior 4201/4301/4281/42111 is replaced by the Ent-D. Also what I had thought I had initially identified as an Excelsior in the background may just be another Steamrunner instead. Also newer "mushroom" shaped stations seen in "Relativity" are replaced by 2 Spacedocks. Otherwise, the panorama in the calendar is exactly the same as the one featured in the episode.

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Fabrux, that font is also found on the internet. It's also gone by the name FederationStarfleet with or without the space character. Just look for Trek sites that offer Trek fonts for d/l and you'll find it there.

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Man, this sucks...

The name on that Excelsior looks to be the same name that I just named a model a few weeks ago, the Shangri-La. This bites...they keep choosing the same names as I do.

BTW, the name is just a guess based on the very blurry formation & the "gap" near the end.

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Fabrux
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I found the font. However, Euroline (Microgramma) Bold Extended isn't the font they use on the ships. It's almost the same thing, only FederationStarfleet has a line around the letters.

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I believe this is the USS Fredrickson NCC-42111. Notice how the top and of the "0" is not as thick or as dark as the sides. Now, look at the Cs in "NCC", and you'll see the top and bottom lines are very thick and easy to make out. Therefore, I believe the top and bottom you claim to see on the "0" are actually hull lines. And I also believe the name Fredrickson could fit in there. I mean, compare the size of the 3 letters USS in there and then compare the size of how big the 11 letters in FREDRICKSON would be. The name should be just smaller then 4x the length of the USS part. Just by looking at it that seems to fit exactly.

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I must agree with Alpha. It certainly looks like 4201. Could be 4281, but I don't think so...

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After reconstruction, it looks to me to be 4281.

I've outlined in bluish the pattern. There's a hole that almost solid in the second digit, but if you follow the darkened track down, you see that it diverges; the upper half goes straight 7the lower heads down to the left--obviously a 2.

The third digit DOES look like a 0...until you really examine the middle. There's a slight dimpling on the outer edges that repeated on the interior; obviously, the crossbar of the 8 was too light at the angle to fully show up. That's not a surprise--Star Fleet Bold Extended isn't a uniformly sized font

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Are these all made from the same scan? I mean, at that amount of zooming, we're probably seeing the effects of printing artifacts.

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Yes, those "dimples" he sees are a result of the diagonal pattern of pixellation that you can see in the picture at that magnification.

Note that the '4' and '2' (that is, beyond a doubt, a '2'; I'm not sure how anyone could see anything else there) are the same width. If that next part were a '0', '8', or anything else like that, it would be as wide. It isn't; it's two '1's The reason there seems to be less space in the middle than there is between them and the final '1' is because there is a hull line running right between them.

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I claim no expertise in this, but....

The name appears long enough to be USS FREDRICKSON.

the second character appears smudged, and apperas wider than the others. It appears, frankly, to have a short phaser burn running diagonnally across it, making it unreadable.

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I never though I would ever say this, but I simply have to:

"I think that it is 4301 indeed."

And the name looks long enough to be 'Fredrickson', although the Fred's registry is 42111. But that's no surprise, since the Nebula-model (USS Bogue NCC-70915) from "Message in a Bottle" [VOY] as depicted in the 'Ships of the Line' calendar also carried the name and registry from the Honshu (while being referred to 'USS Farragut in the caption, but that's not the fault of the VFX dept...). It's just sooo typical for the show's producers to be so inaccurate...

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