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The359
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Could be a Miranda upside-down. You can definatly make out what looks like nacelles on top.

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Dukhat
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Thanks, TSN! I don't yet know how to post pics on this baord, and I haven't found any instruction page explaining how either. Can someone please point me to where I can find help with this?

Hey, I went from junior member to member with this post. Cool.
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TSN
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On that same note, I was thinking of the scout ship from "Starship Mine". I forget which way it was flipped for that episode, but it had nacelle-like things that could point up...

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Dukhat, Here are the instructions.
http://flare.solareclipse.net/ubbcode.html

The link is at the bottom of the page when you make a post. It's highlighted as UBB Code.

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Dukhat
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Thanks PopMaze. I accidently tried the UBB codes from Bernd's EZBoard bb, not realizing that different boards have different codes. I know better now

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Sol System
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I thought that the ship in question was a reuse of the Merchantman?

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I for one think our Deneva kicks ass. It is absurd that anyone can pick out the slightest detail from that screen grab. In fact, I remember watching that ep of TNG, and trying to discern details of the ship...it was nothing but a smudge. It is highly unlikely we'll ever see what the Deneva looks like, and, most likely, it *was* some other studio model flipped upside down (otherwise they would have shown it in more detail). As such, I think the ASDB is perfectly in order...granted, I'm biased.... :-)

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Sol System
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Wait, I'm thinking of "Angel One".

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Dukhat
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quote:
It is absurd that anyone can pick out the slightest detail from that screen grab.

That's why I asked if anyone had a *larger* screencap.

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The thing to do now is wait for it to come out on DVD someday... :-)

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Bernd
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I'm convinced that the ship on the screencap looks exactly like Jason's ASDB version

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Actually, it does look like the Merchantman...

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There are pros and cons to it being the Merchantman (which I agree probably is the case).

+When we first saw the Merchantman, it was indeed a freighter, piloted by a very small number of human-looking characters, which fits the facts of USS Arcos as well.
+Arcos NCC in the 6000 range would indicate TOS movie era, which is also where we meet the Merchantman.
+(Straw-grasping)The bridge is vaguely Starfleetish - the only place where aliens use such a dome structure is when they are lend-leasing the Merchantman.
+(Straw-grasping, part two) Deneva and Antares are both freighters named after a UFP star, and Antares looks "civilian", too. Other Starfleet ship classes are not named after stars, except for the unseen Rigel class which for all we know could have been another freighter.

-There is no solid evidence yet of Starfleet using ships that are not bright white aerodynamic hi-tech thoroughbreds. At least not unless we accept the Antares class Starfleet ship in the "Redemption" fleet as being the same as SS Xhosa (or alternatively Orta's ship from "Ensign Ro"). Then again, surely Starfleet must operate a sizeable fleet of humble supply ships, which would probably look similar to civilian freighters?
-Even so, the ship lacks recognizable Starfleet equipment like phaser turrets/strips or blue-glowing warp engines.
-The ship is seen in too many alien hands to make the export control authorities of the UFP look competent.

Perhaps the real Deneva class only roughly looks like the Merchantman, but from close up, we could observe the shining white paint finish, the Starfleet streamers and NCC pennants, and the phaser turrets, all of which separate the design from its civilian (and export-cleared) counterpart? Anybody care to draw a "militarized" Merchantman in Starfleet livery? Or a "militarized" SS Xhosa?

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TSN
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Erm... The Antares was a reuse of the Batris, not the Merchantman.

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Alpha Centauri
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One little question Timo: you identify the Xhosa to be the SS Xhosa, suggesting that the ship is of Federation origin (but not Starfleet). The Xhosa is a Petarian ship in Bajoran service, that doesn't mean that the ship is Federation. Was the SS prefix seen on some computer screen or something, and thus canon?

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