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An Oberth model was used to represent this ship in "The Pegasus" because of budget considerations, but it was originally supposed to be a newer design. I remember Rick Sternbach saying that it was supposed to be something like a four-nacelled variant of an Ambassador-era starship, but does anyone else have any other information, like if RS ever said something about it in a newsgroup?
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There's even an Okudagram in the episode that may be a holdover from the original four-nacelle idea. It shows the usual symbolism for nacelles, but there are four, rather than two. Of course, this could just be two different aspects of each nacelle, say top and bottom halves of the coils or something, but it seems almost likely that it was originally drawn to match the quad-naceller.
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I do believe there is an Okudagram in the episode of a four-nacelled ship. If it's a Cheyenne, I don't remember, but I do recall someone on the art staff mentioning it was originally going to be a Cheyenne.
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IIRC, the Pegasus (like the Crazy Horse) was supposed to be a Cheyenne, and they even designed the Pegasus set to reflect that idea. This leaves us with the conclusion that the Cheyenne class is a testbed for the Galaxy Class.
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Budget Considerations forced the producers to use a Oberth-Class model. Mention was also made that if the Cheyenne class model was used, then we would have seen more of the Cheyenne class in Star Trek.
Just think of a couple of Cheyenne ships duking it out with Dominion ships on DS9. Or a Cheyenne class making potshots on the Borg cube in First Contact.
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The problem, IIRC, is that the Cheyenne model was a literal kitbash. Therefore, it didn't have the level of detail necessary for photgraphing, nor was it equipped to be lighted. They'd have had to build a new, large, lighted model to put it in a prominent position on screen, and it was simpler (and cheaper) to just grab the Oberth.
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Though I believe the Cheyenne class was considered because it was almost good enough for prime time. At least, presumably good enough that they originally thought there wouldn't be too much work involved in sprucing it up.
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Although I would have liked the idea of seeing more Cheyennes, the Pegasus was clearly seen to be an Oberth, wasn't it? I mean, explaining the 4-nacelled-Okudagramm on an Oberth engineering screen will be much easier than explaining the Oberth saucer rising from within the asteroid if the Pegasus is supposed to be a Cheyenne...
My point is: let's rather speculate WTF those 4 nacelles could symbolize. Maybe it has something to do with the cloaking device?
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Or a variant of the standard Oberth, souped up test bed for various technologies..... Federation Cloaking Device Warp 10 Vessel Transwarp and Warp nacelles and the such....
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Like I said, it may not have actually represented four nacelles, but rather just two aspects of each nacelle. I believe the example I suggested was that it could be the upper and lower halves of each set of coils.
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Yeah, but on the other hand there is a small history of "wrong" okudagrams in episodes. The one that comes to mind is the "faulty" nebula-class okudagram for the USS Sutherland in the episode where Data was captain. I�m thinking that the nacelles where supposed to represent the Cheyenne-class, but the staff just forgot to replace the 'gram.
BTW, Frank, got any bigger version of that pic? You really can�t see all that much.
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I also tend to think it represents only 2 nacelles. Maybe the Pegasus had 2 plasma injectors in each nacelle... After all we don't know anything about a "normal" Oberth's warp drive system either. The nacelles look kinda strange to me.