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AndrewR
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The thing with that Okudagram, the nacelles are long and thin like a Cheyennes...

Also what I don't understand is that if there were bugetry considerations... why did they build a new Oberth model for "The Pegasus".

They did... they really did - its more detailed.

(Maybe it was only a part model/part rock thingy)

Andrew

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Working mostly from memory...

We only saw the ship in the rock, so we don't really know what all the ship is like so it may in fact be neither Orbeth or Cheyenne. The class may quite well be based on the Orbeth but in has extra warp drives and / or other minor modifications.


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I have to agree with Andrew, the nacelles sure aren�t like the standard oberth-nacelles.
Yeah, we don�t get to see much of the ship except the saucer, but I still think it�s unlikely that it�s been modified to such an extent. The Pegasus was an apparently unauthorized experimental ship. To do drastic modifications tends to attract attention. It is much more likely that it is a standard Oberth-class vessel on the outside of the starship. So the okudagram is just an omission, IMHO.

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It could be that the phase-shift effect that the cloaking device employed would affect the warp systems in some way (or that they needed to be used in a different configuration) so the okudagram indicates the two states of the warp fields. Just an idea...

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If the Cloaking/Phase-Shift Device required exotic materials that could have been a problem, attracting attention, unless it was from a tech testbed ship, that often had requirements for the odd and rare.

Then again, maybe they got what they needed from the blackmarket.

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It's been well-documented that the Pegasus was an (almost certainly unmodified) reuse of the blown-to-shit Oberth model used for the Vico

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Andrew et pIn'a: That's just a standard symbol for a nacelle. The size and shape don't match anything. After all, even the Cheyenne's nacelles aren't straight w/ a bit of rounding at the ends like that.

Ritten: Erm... You might want to re-read what you posted. I think you made an unfortunate typo... *LOL*

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LOL! Now we know how waste-extraction works... Phase-shit devices!

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And the Pegasus can't have been a reuse of the "blown-to-shift" Vico, since the Vico model was missing huge chunks of the forward parts of her saucer and ventral pod. The Pegasus has an intact bow sticking out of solid rock.

I'll dig out my old Chinefantastique issue, but I seem to remember that the Pegasus model was built to scale with the four-footer E-D model used for the filming of the cave scenes. It would have to be a custom model, then, since I believe the Grissom model was bigger.

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AndrewR
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I'm sure that it was a newly built model... it seems to have more detail and its a bit more 'blue' on the top compared to the old Oberth model.

Maybe that Star Trek Mechanics book mentions this fact!?!

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So if they made an all-new Oberth model for this episode, which apparently COSTED something to build, then why didn't they just built the Cheyenne???

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Maybe it was cheaper to build an Oberth model than a new Cheyenne model.

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Mybe they used an oberth insted of an cheyenne because the ship would be sticking out of the rock. The oberth looks like no other ships, but the cheyenne might be mistaken for a galaxy class due to the fact that the cheyenne was designed around the dorsal section of the galaxy class primary hull. and because of this a new modle was needed so we get a new oberth modle( or at least the bow of an oberth)

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