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Has any Miranda/Avenger class vessel ever been seen to fire its rollbar phasers apart from the USS Reliant in ST II?
And, has any rollbar-less Miranda ever fired photon torps? I think the Saratoga's captain ordered them fired but we never saw where on the hull they were fired from, is this right?
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The Saratoga's captain ordered his ship to "load torpedo bays", but none were fired. I'm guessing that the sensor doodads on the sides also contained tubes.
And no, no other Miranda has ever used the rollbar phaser emitters.
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My reasons for asking were due to a debate I've been having with Steve Long over on the forums at trekrpg.net.
I'm attempting to design a more accurate Miranda using Steve's Spacedock rules for the LUG RPG. The rollbar phasers are a pain - are they normal phasers or are they 'mega-phasers'. But then I realised that they had never been fired after ST II. So I got to wondering if, with the improvements on torpedo technology in the 24th century they're no longer needed and that those pods on the corners of the rollbars contain sensors (moved out of the main pod to make room for newer torpedo systems) instead of phasers.
The Saratoga I was planning to ignore for the moment. Steve has the bits sticking out the sides as pulse phasers and has torp tubes on the saucer in all versions of the ship. :P
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I go by what I've always said - that the phasers in STII were basically normal, they were just easier to use - be it recharge time in exchange for higher power output, or whatever - fired in pulses. After all, between then and the start of TNG - ie, for the rest of the TOS movies - we never saw a lot of phaser fire, it was all torpedoes; maybe ALL phasers were like that until the strips were invented.
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I think the image you referenced is of the Majestic being hit by a Dominion energy beam, not of her firing. However, you're right that DS9 Mirandas have tended to fire from their sensor domes. Sisko's Saratoga did that in Emissary, I believe. There is a brief clip of her from behind firing from her dome. I just checked it on my ST CD Encyclopedia.
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Another possibility is that the reason why the those "megaphasers" never fired was becuase they were obsolete by the time of the Dominion War. I think the ship had to manuever itself to fire those phasers. Also there probably just easier to fire from the ball phasers. About the Saratoga, I am guessing that she was different and had maybe her "mgeaphasers" on the sensor dome instead.
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The Saratoga's phaser fire was a VFX error, plain and simple.
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