posted January 06, 2001 07:19 AM
Oh, and another thing. I just watched both 'Sacrifice of Angels' and 'First Contact'. In Sacrifice on of the Mirandas shoots lots of torpedos from the roll-bar just as they enter the gap. Watch closely to the top of the sceen.
Also a Miranda class shoots a torpedo from the roll-bar in the scene where the Defiant is firing at the Cube. You can see it in between the Cube and the Akira class on the left, just before the Oberth class which fires a phaser.
It seems like the location of the forward torpedo launcher on the Miranda class has always stayed the same.
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posted January 06, 2001 08:16 PM
Hey Frank, sorry... I just have a heap of pics that I keep for mucking around with in art programs and posting for discussions like this etc. I just loaded it up from my HD, cause I didn't have the pic's location off the net.
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posted January 07, 2001 09:50 PM
The roll bar phasers have always seemed a bit redundant to me (unless they are qualitatively different from the saucer phasers, that is). Perhaps they aren't actually more powerful than the saucer phasers, but LESS so - perhaps Khan used them because he wanted to wound, not kill? Their destructive effect was the same as that of Kirk's pitiful battery-powered shots, or of the later shots in the nebula where both ships were low on power.
Or perhaps Khan simply hadn't deciphered the whole weapons system yet, just the aft torpedoes and the roll bar phasers...
Then again, all the DS9 Mirandas apparently either had impulse engines up on the pod, or didn't display the rear end of the pod. Perhaps somebody did some innovative conduit-rerouting to get those engines working, and the roll bar phasers were left without power?
posted January 08, 2001 12:23 AM
Or perhaps they were just used because they were passing the Enterprise and needed a broadside shot. After all, Kirk & Co might have twigged if the Reliant had been flying directly at them.
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posted January 08, 2001 01:31 PM
But the Reliant, like the Enterprise, had phaser arrays on the side to handle that. One would presumably think that these would do a better job than a weapon pointing more or less straight ahead.
posted January 09, 2001 12:29 AM
Curiously enough, Khan fired the roll bar phasers well off-boresight, suggesting they have almost full hemisphere coverage - just like the ball turrets on the saucer do.
If I were placing phaser emitters on a ship, I'd probably go for some sort of a pylon mount similar to that roll bar, instead of mounting the emitters directly on the hull and thus reducing their firing arcs to just one hemisphere...
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