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Shik: Wow, I wish I knew what you were talking about, heh. Uhm... I'll try to address your comments as I understand them.
First off.. uhm... TNG perpetuated an idea of Starfleet's defense role being a dirty little secret no-one acknowledged. Since most fans of the modern era were brought up on TNG, I'm just making a clarification.
Uhm, parasitic energy feedback system. You'd think it was self-evident, but I don't know what the hell it means either Any tech-heads wanna figure out what it means?
Don't have a clue what you're talking about cloaking. It's a regular old missile
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You really were'nt very obscure. I guess there's not many Dennis Miller fans on thses boards either....
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Shik's right though. Comparing the NCC-1701 to the Enterprise-D, Kirk's ship did a lot more exploring than patrolling, whereas Picard rarely seemed to leave the Federation border.
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Was the F-19 design thought up by Microprose? Or did they just borrow it?
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Neither and both, depending on which source you trust. Officially, the F-19 designation isn't assigned to any fighter aircraft, nor was it ever carried by one. AFAIK, Microprose's rendition is essentially a heavily modified F-117 (still classified when the game was designed).
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: Starfleet's early days were SO not about being "defense-oriented." That rankles me.
Although "Enterprise" may change this to some respect, it's generally been accepted (as far as I could tell, anyway) that part of the Federation Starfleet's purpose was to provide collective defense against the Romulans.
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Perhaps in the specific, but I don't find it hard to believe that one purpose (and probably a large one, at that) of Starfleet was to provide a unified military for the common defense of the Federation's member worlds and holdings.
quote:Originally posted by Snay: Perhaps in the specific, but I don't find it hard to believe that one purpose (and probably a large one, at that) of Starfleet was to provide a unified military for the common defense of the Federation's member worlds and holdings.
Exactly. With the speculation in the Encyclopedia (admittedly based on uncertain dates in some points) that the Federation was formed partially in response to the Romulan War, then it makes sense that the Federation's Starfleet (not the same as ENT's Earth Starfleet at all... grr...) was formed partially for collective defense.
Bullshit? Perhaps... but only as much as 90% of all the other Trek-related topics discussed on this board.
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