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Masaki
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Originally posted by Reverend:
The only suggestion I would make would be to underline the registry on the nacelle, put "USS CONSTITUTION" underneath it in a smaller type and move the whole thing to the right of that groove instead of the left.

I think that the registry on the nacelle should choose either a NCC number or a ship's name. Is it better to place a ship's name on the nacelle, since the NCC number is on the engineering hull?


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Also what is that oval feature on the underside of the primary hull?
If it's meant to be a forward phaser array then I'd move it forward a little more.

I think that the oval hollows on the undersurface of the saucer are the docking bay (or air-lock hatches).
Although the same hollow is in the engineering hull, it is written as "Bay 4" here. I am supposed that "Bay 1" to "Bay 3" is on the saucer section.


Engineering hull - Bay 4

Bay 1 to Bay 5

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Originally posted by Harry:
Although I don't know where this design fits in the 'real' timeline, it is a nice intermediate design.

I assume that the TMP Enterprise is the Constitution class of the phase III. Although the original Enterprise was due to be converted into the phase II, it assumes that it was converted into the newest phase III. In the last six months, the bridge, the officer's lounge, the planetary sensors and the photon torpedoes replaced the further newest thing.


Evolution chart

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So in TMP, we got "Phase III Refit"?

And 1701-A would still be a "Phase III Refit", perhaps "Phase III Refit 2"?

I could live with that. In fact, I could grab that and run, and add it to my little starship guide which will never see the light of the day.

The thrown-together ship from "Booby Trap" looks surprisingly good on that chart. Probably not an intended further development of Constitutions, though, but rather an offshoot design. Those holes in the saucer look too small to be doors, so perhaps they are sensor arrays instead. Heck, the corresponding "portholes" on the real Constitutions could be sensor arrays, too, solving the problem of their odd scaling and placement.

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What happened to the one with the 'balls' on the end of the nacelles from TOS?

Was there any TAS differences?

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The TAS ship was only supposedly different from the inside. Otherwise, standard TOS production fare - but without the "ball-less end grille" footage problem!

And to solve that problem, I'd just think of the balls as retractable, in the "The Cage", "WNMHGB" and TOS ships alike. They are great for stealthing the warp exhaust, but every now and then you have to ventilate (say, just before you enter planetary orbit, which is why the grillework shows in such shots specifically). The other differences between "WNMHGB" and TOS production ships don't really show up in those shots.

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I know my balls retracted when I saw Uhura dancing naked in STV! [Eek!]

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Yikes.

The TAS Enterprise had some new consoles on the bridge, but also it managed to have a secondary turbolift exit on the bridge without any external clues.

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quote:
Originally posted by Harry:
Yikes.

The TAS Enterprise had some new consoles on the bridge, but also it managed to have a secondary turbolift exit on the bridge without any external clues.

I think that second door was meant to lead to a stairwell.

As for the inter-changeable nacelle caps; sure it sounds nice, but good luck design a workable, functional or even believable mechanism for that!
I just ignore the over use of stock footage and pretend that everything Post-WNMHGB and Pre-TMP stays the same.

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Interesting use of blue bussards, kinda leads into the Ent-B and Merced Class. [Wink]

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Updated! - "Evolution chart"


Evolution chart

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NCC-1371? gag me.. most of us have come to our senses and realized the Republic shouldn't be a Constitution... here was mine from a few months back
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i feel a revision coming on...

(here's 3 pages of debate on the matter, BTW: http://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000931;p=1)

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CaptainMIke said:

"NCC-1371? gag me.. most of us have come to our senses and realized the Republic shouldn't be a Constitution... here was mine from a few months back"

No, everyone knows that Republic was originally commissioned as an Archon Class Star Cruiser in 2203, and later undewent an extensive refit program to Constitution Class specifications. [Smile]

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The last three look the same!

What if the balls at the back of the nacelles ARE retractable or - they can be ditched... ION PODS anyone??

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Look closer on the last one, Andrew.
The impulse drive is larger, the torpedo bay has a twin aft launcher and the nacelle pylons are thicker and more sturdy.
That's as good as the Connie ever got.

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coatlantis, that is ignoring the obvious evidence where the Republic appeared as a Baton Rouge-class cruiser in the Marvel comic series.
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